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re: Mother And Son Charged With Incest
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:40 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:40 am to Lester Earl
quote:So you think everything that you dislike should be illegal? Every act that you consider immoral should be illegal?
If you are for the legalization of incest, you are defending it buddy.
Interesting. Scary. But interesting.
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Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:40 am to Lester Earl
quote:
I understand what you're saying, on the surface, about it being 2 adults consenting to sex. But do you not think there is stuff that leads up to that point through childhood? Or at least opens a door to potential indecency? Do you think a 26 year old wakes up one morning and decides he wants to frick his mom?
This is a good point and one that is brought up a lot. I imagine the data is scarce though.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:41 am to SabiDojo
quote:
understand what you're saying, on the surface, about it being 2 adults consenting to sex. But do you not think there is stuff that leads up to that point through childhood? Or at least opens a door to potential indecency? Do you think a 26 year old wakes up one morning and decides he wants to frick his mom?
quote:
This is a good point and one that is brought up a lot. I imagine the data is scarce though.
Yes. It is a good point and, in some cases, it's almost certainly true.
But, one would think before the state can throw your arse in jail, it ought to have to prove it in a particular case.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:41 am to shel311
quote:
With their 25 year old son/daughter, there's nothing to be held accountable for from a legal standpoint IMO of course, not by actual laws in some states.
Again, its not about 2 "adults" having sex. You missed my point. The point is there has to be some buttering up phase, whether it starts as a child or young adult. The parent holds power over the offspring in their developmental years. Are they sexually abusing their kids, by law? maybe, maybe not. For every report of child abuse that is reported, 2 incidents go unreported. But if the end result is incest as "adults", it doesn't make it any better.
You do realize that if incest was legal, it would only encourage this more, right?
quote:
So why is the alcohol example poor? Again, having an alcoholic father, what do you think that does to a family and how does that affect how his 3 or 4 kids will grow up? Adversely, right?
Because it doesn't involve the initiation by the parent that incest does. It's pretty simple.
you're trying to say that a father just drinking alcohol would be akin to a father initiating an incestous relationship with his offspring.
Do you think kids want to become incestous with the parents without their parent's guidance? I think the majority of them do not.
do I think many kids overcome their parent(s) being alcoholics & go on to lead successful, drug free lives? yea, I think so. I know a bunch.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:43 am to Lester Earl
quote:So what makes people gay?
You missed my point. The point is there has to be some buttering up phase, whether it starts as a child or young adult. The
Clearly you don't think they are born gay. Someone has to butter them up at a young age and make them gay right?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:43 am to trom83
In cases like this i just want to know how they get charged with it? Did the cops get a call from the neighbors "Hey, ya um ole baw over hear is laying pipe to his mom."
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:44 am to Lester Earl
quote:You do realize that this is a pretty big distinction.........IE, child vs young adult, right?
The point is there has to be some buttering up phase, whether it starts as a child or young adult.
quote:Ahh........the whole "if the state doesn't jail people for a thing, it amounts to ENCOURAGING the thing".
You do realize that if incest was legal, it would only encourage this more, right?
Nonsense.
Does the state "encourage" Anal sex? Does the state "encourage" swinging? Does the state "encourage" oral sex?
You need to re-evaluate your definition of "encourage".
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:46 am to Lester Earl
quote:
You do realize that if incest was legal, it would only encourage this more, right?
That's bullshite. The fricked up people that are doing this now would be doing it regardless of laws. I hate the "If it's legal, the world will turn inside out" arguments. Age of consent laws would still be in place.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:49 am to ShortyRob
quote:
So you think everything that you dislike should be illegal? Every act that you consider immoral should be illegal?
Interesting. Scary. But interesting.
Where are you coming up with these blanket statements, now?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:50 am to Lester Earl
You are complaining about blanket statements?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:50 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Where are you coming up with these blanket statements, now?
Well. You said it not being illegal means it is being ENCOURAGED.
So, if you don't think that everything you dislike should be illegal, this must mean you are encouraging all the things not on the illegal list.
Your argument. Not mine.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
quote:
Clearly you don't think they are born gay.
go on... tell me more
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:52 am to ShortyRob
do you think incest should be legal?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:53 am to trom83
I never expected such an entertaining debate given the subject title.
You boys are crazy.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:53 am to Lester Earl
I have went on. Nobody wants to tackle the points I raised because it crushes your argument
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:53 am to Lester Earl
quote:Are you gonna answer my question?
do you think incest should be legal?
My position is easy. The state shouldn't be in the business of jailing people for personal behavior. I think incest is disgusting. But, it isn't harming me.
Something tells me though that you are just going to ignore my question now that you avoided.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:56 am to ShortyRob
quote:
You do realize that this is a pretty big distinction.........IE, child vs young adult, right?
a young adult could be a teenager. So you're right, there is a distinction. However, teenagers can, and are, still vulnerable
quote:
Does the state "encourage" Anal sex? Does the state "encourage" swinging? Does the state "encourage" oral sex?
You need to re-evaluate your definition of "encourage".
are we comparing incest to normal sex now? Unless of course you think incest is normal sex.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 10:59 am to Lester Earl
quote:Nice try.
are we comparing incest to normal sex now? Unless of course you think incest is normal sex.
You said the state not making something illegal ENCOURAGES the thing.
Well. Does it or not?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:00 am to ShortyRob
quote:
The state shouldn't be in the business of jailing people for personal behavior. I think incest is disgusting. But, it isn't harming me
Giving the facts that we know a large percent of child abuse is unreported, and that fact that most incestous relationships are initiated by parents, you still think that legalizing incest would be a good thing. Yea buddy, 26 year olds are waking up just wanting to frick their moms!
oh but hey, its not "harming you".
Posted on 9/14/16 at 11:03 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Giving the facts that we know a large percent of child abuse is unreported, and that fact that most incestous relationships are initiated by parents, you still think that legalizing incest
Adult.......
quote:Again, you have this problem thinking that not wanting to jail people for a thing means one wants people to do the thing. Your logic is unsound.
you still think that legalizing incest would be a good thing.
quote:I really have no fricking idea what drives weirdos to do what they do or when they start thinking it's a good idea. Neither do you.
Yea buddy, 26 year olds are waking up just wanting to frick their moms!
quote:Correct. Consenting adults doing whatever it is that they want to do has exactly ZERO effect on me.
oh but hey, its not "harming you".
It also has zero effect on you. Ain't freedom a bitch.
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