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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE

Posted on 2/22/19 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 7:56 pm to
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Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:06 pm to
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bigger concern is Old River breaking either at the structure itself or along the levee before or after and carving a new path to the Atchafalaya.


Yep. Would be catastrophic moneywise for lower Mississippi plants, b.r, and new Orleans.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:13 pm to
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We're in the south and we're Cajuns. So all we need is a pirough and some gumbo and frick everything


Know how I know you aren’t Cajun?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21443 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:18 pm to
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Know how I know you aren’t Cajun?


To be fair spelling never was a strong suit for a lot of the coonass nation .
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:20 pm to
There isn’t a coonass alive that can’t spell pirogue.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32748 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:55 pm to
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Mississippi River BR forecast now up to 43.5' - Hypothetical levee break discussion There isn’t a coonass alive that can’t spell pirogue.


At least he did t spell it pea row
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:56 pm to
It’s peereaux you fools
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

There isn’t a coonass alive that can’t spell pirogue.
Are coonasses known for their excellent spelling?
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20462 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:01 pm to
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flood the lower portion of LSU including the PMAC and Tiger Stadium


Hopefully there's a contingency so Mike can be safe. We have several tiger sanctuaries in Texas where he can be high (if not dry)--Tiger Creek near Tyler, In-Sync Exotics in Wylie to name a couple.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:40 pm to
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When that old river control structure fails it’s gonna be an interesting day.



quote:

It'll never happen


It absolutely is going to happen, when is the question.

This has been known since it was constructed and is the primary reason the corp is reluctant to use it.

Every time the ORCS is used it takes one step closer to failure.

Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:48 pm to
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Every time the ORCS is used it takes one step closer to failure.


Is that because the downstream channel gets scoured a little deeper each time it's used and further increases the differential between the upstream and downstream river levels?
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:58 pm to
How’s the forebay looking my Morganza bros?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 10:09 pm to
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Is that because the downstream channel gets scoured a little deeper each time it's used and further increases the differential between the upstream and downstream river levels?


That is the primary reason.

The entire structure is also being pushed backwards.

At the end of the day everyone outside of NO would have been much better off had it never been built but that is a different story.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 10:34 pm to
I don't know what the hell all that was that you just said but it sounded good.

Upvote for Duke Arredondo.

This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 10:35 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 10:35 pm to
Wasn't OCRS built in the mid/late '60s? There were already a shitload of plants (not in NO) depending on the river for process water and transportation by then. The river shifting was a huge problem then and probably an even bigger problem now.
Posted by jlntiger
Member since Feb 2011
1495 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 10:39 pm to
Every inch of rise in the river is exponentially more flow than before . The river is not in a perfect box. 5 more feet at Vicksburg is significantly more flow than it has now. Getting above 48 ft is a big deal
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 10:40 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39207 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:06 pm to
Murphy spill in Katrina was human error, they didn't properly fill the tank farm
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:08 pm to
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Wasn't OCRS built in the mid/late '60s? There were already a shitload of plants (not in NO) depending on the river for process water and transportation by then. The river shifting was a huge problem then and probably an even bigger problem now.



The river will not dry up and go away if the ORCS fails, it will simply have less flow down its current course while at the same time building massive amounts of marsh in SW LA

The MS river historically always had multiple outlets to the sea which relieved flooding and caused land building along the coast. The state of affairs today and the necessity for ever higher levees and control structures was created by the ACE, they are the problem not the solution.


Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:16 pm to
I understand all of that, but if a 1927 type flood fricked up the economy in 1927, what do you think it would do now? Allowing the river to periodically make major course shifts isn't practical these days.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:17 pm to
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It absolutely is going to happen, when is the question.

I love when people speak in absolutes about this.. something they will never see happen and can always just keep saying it will happen eventually.

At this point, year 2019, man has the ability to prevent it from ever happening. The Corps will build an entire new structure to replace the ORCS when they need to.

It would be an unfathomable disaster. Unfathomable. Therefore, they won’t let it happen.
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