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re: More strikes ahead? Teachers say they love their jobs but can't pay their bills, poll show
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:39 am to BulldogXero
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:39 am to BulldogXero
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Teachers get relatively low pay and low respect for the amount of BS they have to put up with on a daily basis. For anywhere from 35,000 to 50,000 a year they have to put up with school administration, government overreach, bratty kids, and helicopter parents. There's little respect or admiration for what they do from the outside world simply because they get months off in the summer.
did your wife dictate that to you to post on here?
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:39 am to 50_Tiger
You don't get social security if you don't pay into it. My mom will retire after working for the Jefferson Parish School Board (almost and practically) her whole career. She won't get any social security.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:42 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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"One year, I counted up all the hours I spent working," says Kevin Rooker, 60, a history teacher in Saginaw, Michigan, including time spent teaching classes, grading papers and meeting after-hours as part of Carrollton High School's technology committee. "If you total up all those hours, guess what I made? $2.68 an hour."
Michigan publishes all government salaries. Rooker makes $72,000 a year.
At $2.68/hour, that means he works over 27,000 hours a year.
Except there are 8,760 hours in a year.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 9:43 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:42 am to Peazey
Isn't the mandatory 10% the teacher "SSec" though?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:45 am to jac1280
I use to have a teacher that bitched about grading papers all night but didn't see the irony that she was sending us home with homework every single day.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:45 am to LSUisKING
Iirc at 30 years you get 80% of the average of your 3 (or 5?) highest paid years. But you also no longer have to pay your pension deduction which brings you closer to full pay. Then it's also a pension which brings it's own amount of security.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 9:47 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:47 am to Dire Wolf
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I use to have a teacher that bitched about grading papers all night but didn't see the irony that she was sending us home with homework every single day.
I'm sorry I didnt' get your papers graded last night. I started watching Deal or No Deal
I liked that teacher though.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:47 am to Geauxtiga
quote:Aside from the hazard pay, imagine how much those offshore workers would make if they worked 12 instead of 6 months!
Sooo why do off shore workers ONLY work 6 months and make 100K plus a year?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:48 am to 50_Tiger
It's their retirement which in essence functions like social security would, but it would still be incorrect to refer to it as SS.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 9:49 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:48 am to Baers Foot
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Stealing from another poster: going bear hunting with a stick
Yet if you were to check the voting habits of the majority of teachers, they vote for the people that strip them of that authority.
If you don't like being hit in the face, stop hitting yourself in the face I always say....
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:49 am to Peazey
30 years x 2.5 would be 75%. The rest of what you wrote is accurate (3 years)
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:06 am to Peazey
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It's their retirement which in essence functions like social security would, but it would still be incorrect to refer to it as SS.
It's equivocal in function, but better because it can't be taken away, unlike actual Social Security.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:26 am to 50_Tiger
Except it doesn't supplement their retirement like you were asking on the last page. It is their retirement. So they don't get something like a 401k and SS. They get their pension. Not that it's a bad thing. A pension is a great and secure benefit. It's just the more nuanced way to say and understand it.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:31 am to 50_Tiger
In MS we most definitely pay into social security so yes we eventually get that along with the PERS pension. There is a gap of course....I started at 25 so I will be 53 with 28 years....so for 9 years I will be pension only unless I take another job....social security if its still there kick in at 62 along with my optional 403B that the wife and I both pay into that I think we cannot access without penalty until 62 as well but I might be wrong on that have to look at it again as there are multiple options with it. So I guess the answer is it depends on the state since some are saying some do not pay into social security but we most def do here.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:33 am to Volvagia
This is true....my school dismisses at 2:30 but we start at 6:45. But folks like to pick and choose their "facts" on both sides to fit their argument.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:34 am to mays
quote:
Rooker makes $72,000 a year.
That's not underpaid. It's just whining
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:34 am to oogabooga68
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Yet if you were to check the voting habits of the majority of teachers, they vote for the people that strip them of that authority.
If you don't like being hit in the face, stop hitting yourself in the face I always say....
What? It's not a partisan issue. I think it has more to do with the exponential growth of the administrative side of public schools (both K-12 and higher ed) and the hiring of a bunch of busy-bodies.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:59 am to Baers Foot
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I think it has more to do with the exponential growth of the administrative side of public schools (both K-12 and higher ed) and the hiring of a bunch of busy-bodies.
Somebody gets it! Its why certain states struggle with education and some have better results. Cut down on the over redundant admin positions making six figures. Use that savings to hire more teachers and educational learning tools.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:10 am to Mudminnow
As of 2016
Median pay for all workers USA
High school diploma: $712
Some college, no degree: $774
Associate degree: $836
Bachelor’s degree: $1,173
Master’s degree: $1,401
Doctoral degree: $1,743
Professional degree: $1,836
LINK
Median pay for all workers USA
High school diploma: $712
Some college, no degree: $774
Associate degree: $836
Bachelor’s degree: $1,173
Master’s degree: $1,401
Doctoral degree: $1,743
Professional degree: $1,836
LINK
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 11:12 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:32 am to Baers Foot
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What? It's not a partisan issue.
Not to get off track, but it certainly is a partisan issue.
One side has been in charge of the education for quite some time.
Many schools have become jungles because one side has decided that you if you punish someone you could be labeled a "racist".
If the country had the guts to do so, many of the problems in Public Schools could be remedied, but the cries of racist would immediately halt all progress.
Again, not trying to hijack, but it IS a partisan issue.
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