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Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:09 pm to GRTiger
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You're both assuming the types of problems are the same
we both clearly expressed that the problems aren't even remotely the same.
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It's not like everyone has the same life, the only difference being how much money they have in checking
So someone living off a 20K salary having to scrape by to afford rent and food compared to someone making 150K and having to keep up with the insurance on all their vehicles isn't much of a difference?
I'd say those problems are quite a bit different. Sure each is a "problem" to the individual, one that may cause stress and other problems in life, but one is far, far more serious in nature.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:11 pm to TejasPete
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If you let money rule you, the more you have the worse off you are. If you make it your bitch then it's awesome. The key is realizing possessions are just shite and not to get overstretched
As I've gotten older I've definitely realized this. I've never been a flashy person at all, but when I was in my late teens or early 20s it was nice to have the coolest gadgets and new clothes and all that jazz. But now in my late 20s I much more value going on trips with buddies and seeing new cities, my apartment barely even has anything in it. I live solo, what's the point?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:17 pm to WG_Dawg
You are way too far away from the point I made to even keep trying. I'll just say that not every problem revolves around how to pay a bill. Your examples shared that characteristic.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:18 pm to jimbeam
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More Money More Problems
"You of all people should know that Stanley"
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:23 pm to GRTiger
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I'll just say that not every problem revolves around how to pay a bill
Obviously. Plenty of problems in life, family, relationships, work, etc. But the specific question and title of the thread was about money, so I think it's reasonable that the responses would be based around money as well don't you?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:24 pm to Hammertime
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More money is always better.
False. I really can't see how you don't know of any example where more money became more problems. There was a song about it first off...which means it isn't just some random thought that just happened pervade thoughts to the point where it was put into a well-known song. Also, look at NBA players like Allen Iverson who spend and spend and spend, and he created all these bad habits, and created an illusion of what he thought life was all about, and now that he has no more money, he can't maintain that illusion, and I wouldnt doubt he feels poorer than almost anyone based purely on where he was, and where he is now.
More examples:
Raise at work = more hours you have to work, less time devoted to your family, maybe your marriage was on the rocks already, and then job promotion took that needed time to mend the issues, and then wife divorcees you, and then you lose your mind, life gets tough, money seems worthless compared to that woman, or the kids she now gets to have custody of, and the fact that because you now have more money that she gets a shite ton of your money as a result.
How about all the gold digger women that will do anything to just marry you and get your money? Then its tougher to distinguish between what women really like you for you, and what women really like you for your money only, and its not as easy to distinguish as you might think.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:26 pm to Grim
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I heard a statistic once that said $70000 a year is the ideal amount of money to make in terms of happiness. Guess that makes sense but I think with a family 100k is more like it
Heard exactly the same. After you've hit that mark, your happiness level increases only marginally, if that. It likely depends largely on the status of everything else in your life.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:27 pm to WG_Dawg
It's based around all the problems that more money brings, yes. More money creates more problems, even if not specifically related to base human needs. More money creates more responsibilities, more dependencies, etc. If you only look at the problem of eating or paying your electric bill, then you are right. But only you are creating that vacuum. It's doesn't exist in real life.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:30 pm to tiggerthetooth
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look at NBA players like Allen Iverson who spend and spend and spend, and he created all these bad habits, and created an illusion of what he thought life was all about, and now that he has no more money, he can't maintain that illusion,
dude...that's a personal problem. Iverson's problems are 100% because he's a dumbass with his spending. If you, me, or any other "normal" person was given what he made in one year we could probably live the rest of our lives quite comfortably.
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Raise at work = more hours you have to work, less time devoted to your family
Maybe, maybe not. A raise could be you've done well enough that you now manage things moreso than do day to day tasks, and you can delegate more to others. I've seen plenty of bosses that play golf every Friday, are incommunicado Friday-sunday, come and go as they please, etc.
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maybe your marriage was on the rocks already, and then job promotion took that needed time to mend the issues, and then wife divorcees you, and then you lose your mind, life gets tough, money seems worthless compared to that woman, or the kids she now gets to have custody of, and the fact that because you now have more money that she gets a shite ton of your money as a result.
That's quite a story you've made up there.
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How about all the gold digger women that will do anything to just marry you and get your money?
Again, personal problem. It takes 2 people to marry, if you're too dumb to realize what that woman is wanting you for then that's tough luck.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:32 pm to GRTiger
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But only you are creating that vacuum. It's doesn't exist in real life.
Are you going to tell me with a straight face that there aren't people that live like that? Normal, regular, decent folks that have to decide what bills they can afford? You don't think an extra $10K a year would help those people tremendously and not have the ensuing hypothetical problems ruin them?
Hell the example I gave in my first post is my own frickin life. I make (again, not balling here so I'm not trying to brag) twice what I did 2 years ago and I am exponentially happier. Do I have more problems? No, not really. I have a better job that does have more responsibility, but there's responsibility at every job that exists.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:34 pm to WG_Dawg
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Are you going to tell me with a straight face that there aren't people that live like that?
fricking hell. No I am not going to tell you that. And I didn't.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:35 pm to GRTiger
Well then help me understand because I apparently have missed your point, I'm not trying to antagonize you.
what should I be taking from that
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More money creates more responsibilities, more dependencies, etc. If you only look at the problem of eating or paying your electric bill, then you are right. But only you are creating that vacuum. It's doesn't exist in real life.
what should I be taking from that
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:37 pm to tigers win2
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I will say with more money comes more stuff. At some point, insuring, maintaining, repairing and caring for all kind of stuff starts to get old. You spend less time enjoying the stuff and more time overseeing it. I guess that's the reason people "downsize" or " simplify" their life at some point.
Absolutely this!
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:37 pm to jimbeam
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More Money More Problems by jimbeamHow true is this to you? I'm in grad school, can afford just my necessities and a little fun stuff on the side but i don't think my life could be much better at this point
Somewhat true. Once you live the good life, you don't wanna go back. But rich people problems>>>>>>>>>>poor people problems (I mean better, not greater)
Like, I'm having issues driving all my cars enough to keep the batteries charged. And we feel spread thin trying to spend time at our various abodes. Just not enough time in the day.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 7:51 pm to jimbeam
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jimbeam
It's been a long time since I was in grad school. However, my wife and I were our happiest then. We weren't awash in money, but lived good, spent quality time with each other, and had many a good time. When we graduated, started accumulating stuff, having kids, etc., we lost our focus on each other and over a 20+ year grew so far apart that we simply could not put it together. I am sitting back in a home that is paid for, one to three years from comfortably retiring from my day job, have the two vehicles, two boats, etc., and about to be an empty nest. My wife left and I finished raising the kids. The daughter married off, and my son will probably move on once he is done with his accounting degree at the end of the year. At that point it will be just the dog and me, and the stuff. I date, but it's not the same as having that one special person. I miss that. I miss those special times we had way back when we were young, perhaps a bit naïve, but happy as hell. Unfortunately, there are simply circumstances you can't wind the clock back on.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:11 pm to damnedoldtigah
I bet you will find another special person to enjoy your retirement years with. Wishing you the best. 
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:19 pm to GRTiger
Well, if you make $200k/yr and run into some money problems, you certainly have flexibility to cut some things out.
If you make $25k/yr (like I did), you don't have many places to cut, and have to start making real life decisions
If you make $25k/yr (like I did), you don't have many places to cut, and have to start making real life decisions
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:43 pm to tigerskin
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I bet you will find another special person to enjoy your retirement years with. Wishing you the best
Thanks. Kindest thing said to me this week. Truly appreciate it.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:03 pm to damnedoldtigah
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It's been a long time since I was in grad school. However, my wife and I were our happiest then. We weren't awash in money, but lived good, spent quality time with each other, and had many a good time. When we graduated, started accumulating stuff, having kids, etc., we lost our focus on each other and over a 20+ year grew so far apart that we simply could not put it together. I am sitting back in a home that is paid for, one to three years from comfortably retiring from my day job, have the two vehicles, two boats, etc., and about to be an empty nest. My wife left and I finished raising the kids. The daughter married off, and my son will probably move on once he is done with his accounting degree at the end of the year. At that point it will be just the dog and me, and the stuff. I date, but it's not the same as having that one special person. I miss that. I miss those special times we had way back when we were young, perhaps a bit naïve, but happy as hell. Unfortunately, there are simply circumstances you can't wind the clock back on.
Exactly what I described and was told I "made it up".
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