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re: More grade fixing in a NOLA school
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:09 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:09 pm to fightin tigers
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if privatizing schools is going to be the future.
There's the problem
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:15 pm to LSUFanHouston
This is shocking news.
FWIW. My high school challenged me more for the most part than college. I think that was the point though. PREPARATION.
FWIW. My high school challenged me more for the most part than college. I think that was the point though. PREPARATION.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:20 pm to MrSmith
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There's the problem
Still caught in the middle on this. Can definitely see both sides.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:38 am to TROLA
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This is a huge drawback of mixing public money with private education.. voucher, charter schools all have merits but this type of fraud will be a battle.
This has been going on since grade/test averages per school have been made public and have been a determining factor for their evaluation. People who run the risk of being embarrassed will try to cheat. That doesn't mean you don't expose a shitty school (public, private, charter or whatthefrickever)
Posted on 10/23/19 at 12:46 am to LSUFanHouston
Why is it that when these stories come out the names of the people responsible are always just ridiculous?
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 12:46 am
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:41 am to TigerOnTheMountain
More of the same. Students are failing so blame everyone but the student. I am willing to bet that a third or more of those students read well below grade level and/or have piss poor home lives and/or are behavior problems. There is no teaching the unwilling or unable. Someone get that admin in the classroom and see how it goes for them.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:40 am to LSUFanHouston
I worked at a school where the lowest grade any student could get on something graded was 50%. Also no student got an F without going through multiple channels and paperwork. At the same school grades were often based on effort and non-verbal ESE students made the honor roll some times.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 5:49 am to tgrbaitn08
This isn’t an isolated incident. Administrators put a certain amount of pressure on teachers to not fail too many students. If you have a high number of Ds and Fs, administrators are going to want to know why. The blame generally falls on the teacher, not the students. If a teacher gives an assessment and the majority of kids don’t do well, it’s the teachers job to come up with an alternate plan and reteach it. In addition, I know of many schools that refuse to give lower than a 60. For example, if a kid takes a math test, and gets 8 right out of 25, instead of he/she getting a 32 in the grade book, they’re given a 60.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 6:02 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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Why is it that when these stories come out the names of the people responsible are always just ridiculous?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 6:11 am to LSUFanHouston
What happened to my little Rhodes Scholar? Her grades plummeted upon review
Posted on 10/23/19 at 6:16 am to LSUFanHouston
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then you did not teach them
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the content
Debatable
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study skills
Debatable
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or mindsets
Say what? You can't teach a mindset Whitney
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“It’s too late to fix that teaching error now, so we can make up for it by giving those assignments a weight of zero.”
GFY Whitney.....you want to give out grades, go for it but the lazy arse brats in my class gets an 'F'
Posted on 10/23/19 at 6:38 am to brgfather129
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Effective teachers don't have 1/3 of their students fail.
Just out of curiosity, what is your background. I mean, you are entitled to your opinion, but so is a two year old. At some point, the adult uses their experience as a guide. So, are you the two year old, or the adult. If you are the latter, then what are your personal experiences with classroom instruction and management.
TLDR - It is the fault of the teacher, at least according to the ignorant.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 6:57 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:Do you know any school that actually has a bell curve grade distribution?
A bell curve would have the greatest percentage at the C grade level, and relatively equal distribution for A and F, and for B and D.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:30 am to scottfruget
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More of the same. Students are failing so blame everyone but the student.
It’s really a parenting problem. Parents that don’t give a shite about their kids education have kids who don’t give a shite. But that can’t be discussed.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:38 am to tigersownall
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FWIW. My high school challenged me more for the most part than college. I think that was the point though. PREPARATION.
Agreed. Granted it wasn't a Louisiana public school but in high school chemistry I got a C+, but in college I got a B in Chem 101 and an A in Chem 102 lol.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:41 am to LSUFanHouston
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You certainly hear of administrators who act like this... but it's rare to see it so blunt.
That’s only because you’re not surrounded by it daily. This is very common practice in almost every school district in Louisiana and it’s very much hated by the teachers. At least the good ones. This practice is forced upon the teachers by higher ups and that is not debatable. All teachers do it because they have to but the good ones have to hold their nose while doing it because they know it’s fricked up. Students in Louisiana have to jump through rings of fire and into gator ponds in order to fail these days. It’s pathetic and maddening and if the majority of Louisiana voters knew what official policy in schools in this state is then there would be a small fricking revolution.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 7:46 am
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:45 am to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:46 am to fightin tigers
quote:yup
Exact reason also why teacher pay can't be linked to student performance.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:47 am to deeprig9
quote:if they are in federal prison.. it's not the city's doing...
In ATL, many teachers and admins are in federal prison for this exact thing, right now.
How will New Orleans handle this?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:47 am to deeprig9
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In ATL, many teachers and admins are in federal prison for this exact thing, right now.
How will New Orleans handle this?
If it’s federal what can they do?
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