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re: More grade fixing in a NOLA school
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:54 am to Arthur Fleck
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:54 am to Arthur Fleck
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For example, if a kid takes a math test, and gets 8 right out of 25, instead of he/she getting a 32 in the grade book, they’re given a 60.
That kind of math is why they only got 8/25 in the first place.
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:03 am to JG77056
Not that I agree with it, but the idea behind have a “floor” grade for tests is so that the student still has a chance to pass the quarter/course. If a kid gets a 30 on the first two tests and there are only 5 tests and an exam in the quarter, sure mathematically the kid could pass, but realistically the hole is too deep.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:04 am to Booyow
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That’s exactly what a bell curve is
Folks, we got us a Collegiate Academy C student here.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:17 am to LSUFanHouston
It’s a shame but large corporations use a curve to rate their employees. The usual is 15%, 70%, 15% at exceeded requirements, met requirement, did not meet requirements. It may be expectations or commitments but I forget the terminology. Sooooo, employee performance was forced into those ranges for salary increases and bonuses.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:17 am to LSUFanHouston
Dont want to cook the books
Final resolution is just that.
Final resolution is just that.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:39 am to Nado Jenkins83
Fun times ahead for Alabama: LINK
What could go wrong?
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It’s called the Alabama Literacy Act. Starting in the 2021-2022 school year, kids will have to read on grade level by the end of third grade and pass a standardized test, or they’ll have to repeat the grade.
What could go wrong?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:46 am to OlGrandad
quote:Scruffy isn't a fan of the multitude of standardized testing, but why shouldn’t we hold children back if they are unable to read at their current grade level?
It’s called the Alabama Literacy Act. Starting in the 2021-2022 school year, kids will have to read on grade level by the end of third grade and pass a standardized test, or they’ll have to repeat the grade.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:01 am to Yewkindewit
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It’s a shame but large corporations use a curve to rate their employees. The usual is 15%, 70%, 15% at exceeded requirements, met requirement, did not meet requirements. It may be expectations or commitments but I forget the terminology. Sooooo, employee performance was forced into those ranges for salary increases and bonuses.
I don't support that either, but if you don't like the forced curve, you can always find another job.
Force curves in schools cause kids to be promoted who shouldn't be, who haven't learned the skills necessary to be successful at the next level. It is ruining their ability to be successful.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:14 am to jac1280
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Not that I agree with it, but the idea behind have a “floor” grade for tests is so that the student still has a chance to pass the quarter/course. If a kid gets a 30 on the first two tests and there are only 5 tests and an exam in the quarter, sure mathematically the kid could pass, but realistically the hole is too deep.
Education, especially at the younger levels, is all about building blocks. If a kid gets a 30 on the first two tests, he/she doesn't have the knowledge needed to be successful on future tests, and without some sort of remediation, won't pass them, either. A score that low should be a beacon to the school and the parent (lol) that additional help is needed.
If a kid scores 30, 30, then gets additional help, then scores 85, 90, 88, then I believe a teacher could offer retests, offer additional extra credit, etc, in order to bring up those earlier bad grades.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:15 am to Evolved Simian
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This has been going on since grade/test averages per school have been made public and have been a determining factor for their evaluation. People who run the risk of being embarrassed will try to cheat.
Considering this AP was all too willing to throw teachers under the bus here, I'm not even sure this is about gaming the system for school scores or teacher evaluation. I think this AP just is a strong believe in forced promotion and never being honest with kids about their grades.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:18 am to Epic Cajun
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Do you know any school that actually has a bell curve grade distribution?
I had one professor, in college, that insisted upon it.
Otherwise, no, and it's because in a true bell curve situation, for every "A" earned, there would be a forced "F" that would have to be given, earned or not. That's a terrible idea, failing kids with no basis for support is no better than passing kids with no basis for support.
Most "curves" I see in schools work like this: If no kid gets a 100 grade, then then the kid with the highest grade gets whatever many points needed to get to 100, and every other kid gets the same amount of points.
So if Little Joey has the best grade in the class on a particular test, and it's a 94, every kid in the class has their grade increased by 6 points.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:04 am to deeprig9
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How will New Orleans handle this?
Probably recommend some statutes come down, assuming there are any left
Posted on 10/23/19 at 10:27 am to Cajun Tifoso
I've seen this first hand in EBR parish, arse. principle would have a meeting about groups of problem students and what could teachers do about their grades. I refused to take the bait. If kids refused to do the assigned work then THEY made the F. At the end of the semester I, and other teachers, saw evidence where the AP went into our electronic grade books and changed certain students grades, what a crock. It is school, not a damn daycare.
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