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Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:20 pm to JJ27
As far as actual contact, we do no more than 2 hours in any week of practice. I have been with kids from 8-13 for 17 years now.
My OC runs skeleton with his offense 90% of the time.
My line coaches stick to stances, footwork, and technique blocking with dummies and sleds.
The 2 hours is for actual form tackling practice (Heads Up Tackling) as is required, and Thursday inter-squad scrimmages for 1 hour.
First time ANY kid mentions ANYTHING about his head, neck, or back being hurt from hitting, he is out. We obtain Dr. note releases for these injuries before they are allowed back, and when applicable, follow all concussion protocols.
Safety of the kid is first.
My OC runs skeleton with his offense 90% of the time.
My line coaches stick to stances, footwork, and technique blocking with dummies and sleds.
The 2 hours is for actual form tackling practice (Heads Up Tackling) as is required, and Thursday inter-squad scrimmages for 1 hour.
First time ANY kid mentions ANYTHING about his head, neck, or back being hurt from hitting, he is out. We obtain Dr. note releases for these injuries before they are allowed back, and when applicable, follow all concussion protocols.
Safety of the kid is first.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:37 pm to JJ27
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Maybe for OL/DL, but skill players don't get hit nearly this much
I coached OL/DL through my son's youth football days. One of the first things I had to teach them was to get their head up so they could see what they're doing and not use their head as a battering ram which seems to come natural with most kids. If you teach them proper blocking techniques, you'll see far fewer concussions from your linemen.
Sadly though, far too many times we'd play teams where it was clear whoever was coaching the other team either didn't know proper technique themselves or never bothered trying to teach their linemen. This did two disservices to their players. One, it increased their chances of getting injured. And two, it meant they moved on to jr high football where they'd have to unlearn all the bad habits they'd been taught for years.
I'll never understand why someone goes through the trouble of coaching youth sports but never bothers learning the basic fundamentals the players need to learn in order to play safe and be successful.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:15 pm to CoachDon
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As far as actual contact, we do no more than 2 hours in any week of practice. I have been with kids from 8-13 for 17 years now.
My OC runs skeleton with his offense 90% of the time.
The 2 hours is for actual form tackling practice (Heads Up Tackling) as is required, and Thursday inter-squad scrimmages for 1 hour.
First time ANY kid mentions ANYTHING about his head, neck, or back being hurt from hitting, he is out. We obtain Dr. note releases for these injuries before they are allowed back, and when applicable, follow all concussion protocols. Safety of the kid is first.
Sounds like you were cut from the same mold as the guy I coached with.
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My line coaches stick to stances, footwork, and technique blocking with dummies and sleds.
Very much this. At the start of the season, I'd start with nothing but footwork starting with their stance and how to come out of their stance from a footwork standpoint. Footwork was where it all started and we didn't do anything until they had that part down. We'd move on from footwork to everything from how to use their hands, balance and leverage, etc. Everything was a step by step process using the "crawl, walk, run" method of teaching. Only once they had the proper blocking fundamentals down pat did we move on to learning the blocking schemes in the playbook. And even then, throughout the season my main focus in practices was instilling in the linemen proper blocking.
A normal practice would usually last about 2 hours. The first hour and a half would be focused on fundamentals with the sled and dummies. The last 30 minutes would be to bring the offense and defenses together to go through that week's game plan. We'd then end up with a series of wind sprints.
One good thing we had going for us was good support from our hometown varsity football coach. He and his staff would hold a clinic every year with us youth coaches where they'd train us on the fundamentals they'd be teaching our players in the coming years when they moved up. This was key because it meant we could send the boys up with a good foundation of fundamentals for the JV and varsity coaches to build on. No need to unlearn and then relearn. They'd also send senior players to our practices to be assistants for us in teaching the boys how to do things. I think this cooperation between our youth league and the varsity program is one of the main reasons my son's time in youth football was so successful.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:21 pm to LSU8654722
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The 3rd string QB will get pussy before any XC runner will.
I don't count rape as getting pussy. :rimshot:
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:28 pm to xxKylexx
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Youth football, you have no idea how many stupid arse dads teach their kids to tackle with their head down or hit someone head first.
I don't think there are many parents/coaches out there TEACHING this. Hitting/tackling this way is the natural response from our bodies (dropping head/shielding eyes/getting soft facial bones out of the way)
There just needs to be more teaching about overcoming those natural tendencies, and lets face it every coach will teach that but also go nuts when their player lays a big hit on someone and claim "that's just tough old school football" when the ref throws his flag.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:28 pm to UGATiger26
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Depends. A while back, I read that kids should stay away from serious XC running as the repeated impact could be hell on their developing joints. I don't know what the current science says, as I read that maybe ten years ago.
I ran cross-country in middle school and HS, as well as a couple years of long distance track in college, and the most common pain I feel is in my hand from clicking a mouse and typing all day.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 3:10 pm to BigEdLSU
Javelin catching is more damaging.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:29 pm to usc6158
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XC is in no way damaging unless you have an idiot coach pushing kids to do 60 miles/week with tons of hard intervals and tempos before they are physically developed to handle it.
Even then its almost impossible for a young person (even young adult) to get a serious, debilitating injury from distance running. Yes, you can over-train, but rest fixes that and at some point your body will make you stop.
I don't believe youth football is inherently dangerous, but the effect of concussions and contact injuries often never go away.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:31 pm to BigEdLSU
Should be a pretty easy decision, do you want your kid to be a pansy that always runs from trouble and expects to get a prize just for finishing? Or do you want your kids to learn how to work with others, get knockwaed down and get back up, how to win AND LOSE Appropriately?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 5:29 pm to tigerstripedjacket
My kid just left for Cross Country practice. She didn't want to play football. It's a great sport and I suggest going to Highland Road Park on a fall Saturday morning and watch about 3000 kids run the races.
I have beat up knees from football, weightlifting and a beer belly.
And I bet we ran 10 miles a week in this South Louisiana heat in full fricking pads. frick BL Fairchild.
I have beat up knees from football, weightlifting and a beer belly.
And I bet we ran 10 miles a week in this South Louisiana heat in full fricking pads. frick BL Fairchild.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 6:05 pm to Martini
This is just a crazy question. Are you seriously asking me if a sport where you run around hit people is less damaging than just running around?
Not to be mean here, but if you don't know the answer to your question, than you probably have been playing football/boxing too long. The dangers of football are known. They are known to everyone. The physical toll it takes in broken bones and other injuries that can heal as well as the hidden toll it takes with brain damage is fact.
The small microtraumas from running, unless you continue to run with a stress fracture and convert it to a real fracture, has never really been shown to be dangerous.
I really don't have much to say about this issue. If I were to have a child I can tell you this much. There is no way he would be allowed to play football. And honestly I don't even care about the physical risks. I am talking about the brain damage that is sustained just by the smaller collisions that happen on the field. You don't have to have a concussion to suffer brain damage.
Not to be mean here, but if you don't know the answer to your question, than you probably have been playing football/boxing too long. The dangers of football are known. They are known to everyone. The physical toll it takes in broken bones and other injuries that can heal as well as the hidden toll it takes with brain damage is fact.
The small microtraumas from running, unless you continue to run with a stress fracture and convert it to a real fracture, has never really been shown to be dangerous.
I really don't have much to say about this issue. If I were to have a child I can tell you this much. There is no way he would be allowed to play football. And honestly I don't even care about the physical risks. I am talking about the brain damage that is sustained just by the smaller collisions that happen on the field. You don't have to have a concussion to suffer brain damage.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 6:25 pm to BigEdLSU
Neither are damaging anymore so than other sports or activities.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 6:27 pm to BigEdLSU
Running for sure
Posted on 6/27/16 at 6:29 pm to usc6158
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XC is in no way damaging unless you have an idiot coach pushing kids to do 60 miles/week with tons of hard intervals and tempos before they are physically developed to handle it.
This. Unless you have a really stupid xc coach then running youth xc will only cause you to be in great shaoe.
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