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re: More damaging to kids: Youth football or XC running?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:18 pm to bigpetedatiga
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:18 pm to bigpetedatiga
I do a lot of work with USA Football and am trained in the Heads Up program. It really is sad seeing some of the coaching techniques.
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:19 pm to UGATiger26
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I read that kids should stay away from serious XC running as the repeated impact could be hell on their developing joints. I don't know what the current science says, as I read that maybe ten years ago.
But it's okay for kids to play other sports that involve lots of running? Track, soccer, football, baseball, etc.? We would run a ton before baseball season kicked in. I'd say an easy 3 miles worth of foul pole to foul pole running after practices and scrimmages until games started.
Running injuries are from pretty extreme over training. Not saying some high school XC competitors don't get there. But for the most part, your average kid isn't going to have that problem.
As far as running being bad for joints in general, it's highly over played. Many, many people jog/run for exercise and you don't constantly hear of destroyed knees and stress fractures. People may have bad knees, but I doubt a lot of it is purely from running. You've got a much better shot at a bad knee from playing football.
But the real answer is let the kid play whatever sport they want to participate in.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:20 pm to bigpetedatiga
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Depends on the type of workouts like someone else said. If you are keeping it age appropriate, equip the kids with proper shoes, stress good (good enough for the younger kids) and minimize concrete running, then there should not be an issue.
Yep. Assuming you have a kid who likes running, just encourage your kid to go run a reasonably long distance, walk when he needs to, and just concentrate on walking less and less and going further eventually with time and you will end up with a kid who likes running and will do it for life.
Take a kid to a track and have him do fartleks while yelling and timing shite and you will damage some growth plates, probably give him knee problems later, and make the kid hate running. Nobody needs to do interval training or repeated timed hill runs until high school.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:22 pm to KG6
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Running injuries are from pretty extreme over training. Not saying some high school XC competitors don't get there. But for the most part, your average kid isn't going to have that problem. As far as running being bad for joints in general, it's highly over played. Many, many people jog/run for exercise and you don't constantly hear of destroyed knees and stress fractures. People may have bad knees, but I doubt a lot of it is purely from running. You've got a much better shot at a bad knee from playing football.
Exactly. My friends got their injuries as adults from adult kickball, softball, and dodge-ball leagues. Not from running as adults or in their youths. You can get injured from over training. So don't. Your kid is not Steve Prefontaine. So just chill.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:23 pm to BigEdLSU
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Explain
A lot of kids nowadays are sheltered to the point they are growing up to be limp-wristed pussies.
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Do you think I'm raising a limp wristed kid?
I have no idea.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:24 pm to bigpetedatiga
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Come on biged, I thought you were a track guy.
He is. I'd imagine this thread is him looking for some sort of validation from the OT for having his kids in cross country. The answer to the question is pretty straight forward, so I'm not sure what his endgame will be.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:24 pm to Cooter Davenport
Damage growth plates from track? The only risk of that is from the baseball slide homie.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:25 pm to slackster
My kid wouldn't be good at xc. I know better than to set him up for failure.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:26 pm to Darth_Vader
Ok then why direct that at me? I personally think that you may have a higher risk from xc, but I don't really know. It's a hunch.
I don't think my kid is a wimp but this thread isnt really about that
I don't think my kid is a wimp but this thread isnt really about that
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:28 pm to ksayetiger
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Football, as much as I love it, wrecks the body and mind.
This
If my kids WANT to play then ok - but not forcing it in them
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:33 pm to BigEdLSU
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I personally think that you may have a higher risk from xc, but I don't really know.
The most likely risk to a kid in XC is bloody nipples. Otherwise, pretty much any injury one might expect could just as easily happen from them running to catch the bus.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:33 pm to BigEdLSU
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Ok then why direct that at me? I personally think that you may have a higher risk from xc, but I don't really know. It's a hunch
It wasn't directed at you personally. It was really meant mostly as a joke. Don't take everything I say seriously.
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I don't think my kid is a wimp but this thread isnt really about that
That's good. And I'd never say anything about someone's kid on here.
If you want a serious answer from me to your question, I think there are risks of injury from either sport, more from football though. But there are also great things a kid can get from these and any other sport they enjoy playing. The best advice I can give is let your kid try whatever sports they are interested in and do your best to support them, make sure they get proper coaching and training, and most of all do all you can to ensure they enjoy it and learn the good lessons of sacrifice, hard work, effort, teamwork, and good sportsmanship. Really that's all you as a parent can do. Injuries will happen. The only way to ensure they never get hurt is to shelter them indoors and never let them live. And that's no alternative.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:34 pm to Darth_Vader
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Questions like this is why we've got a generation of limp-wristed pussies hitting adulthood right now.
So much better to have life long knee injuries than be a pussy. More than a handful of friends playing HS football have had knee surgery and/or ongoing problems. No thanks.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:56 pm to BigEdLSU
Youth football, you have no idea how many stupid arse dads teach their kids to tackle with their head down or hit someone head first.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:59 pm to BigEdLSU
How is this even a question?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:07 pm to usc6158
First, gently remove him as not to bruise our wife's delicate nipple. Then train him to punt, place kick, or long snap.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:10 pm to ksayetiger
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compare that to impact on the HEAD dozens of times a day
Maybe for OL/DL, but skill players don't get hit nearly this much.
BigEd, just make sure your kid is a QB and he won't get hit dozens of times in a year.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:13 pm to JJ27
I was trying to rile up the runners. I don't think all those miles are good but oh well.
Rb... I don't like it, but I've got time to sell him on defense.
Rb... I don't like it, but I've got time to sell him on defense.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:13 pm to The Hurricane
Most youth football injuries occur during incidental contact during or at the end of a play. It is very rare to have an injury occur at initial one on one contact in youth football even if poor form is used. It is typically incidental stuff that occurs in a pile. Have seen several broken arms, wrists, and ankles from kids diving in to pile ups but never a serious injury at first contact.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:16 pm to BigEdLSU
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I don't think all those miles are good but oh well.
2 miles a day?
and XC is on grass/gravel
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