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Mixed results for Oregon's decriminalization of hard drugs
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:28 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:28 am
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SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Two years after Oregon residents voted to decriminalize hard drugs and dedicate hundreds of millions of dollars to treatment, few people have requested the services and the state has been slow to channel the funds.
But Oregon still has among the highest addiction rates in the country. Fatal overdoses have increased almost 20% over the previous year, with over a thousand dead. Over half of addiction treatment programs in the state lack capacity to meet demand because they don’t have enough staffing and funding, according to testimony before lawmakers.
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Of 16,000 people who accessed services in the first year of decriminalization, only 0.85% entered treatment, the health authority said.
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Under the law, people receive a citation, with the maximum $100 fine waived if they call a hotline for a health assessment. But most of the more than 3,100 tickets issued so far have been ignored, Oregon Public Broadcasting reported. Few people have dialed the hotline.
Over 1,000 dead in Oregon in two years
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:30 am to TigerintheNO
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few people have requested the services and the state has been slow to channel the funds.
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Over half of addiction treatment programs in the state lack capacity to meet demand because they don’t have enough staffing and funding
quote:So, which is it?
Of 16,000 people who accessed services in the first year of decriminalization, only 0.85% entered treatment, the health authority said.
No one wants to do it or they don’t have capacity?
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:33 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:31 am to TigerintheNO
sounds like a shitty result rather than a "mixed" result
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:32 am to TigerintheNO
How would it have gone any other way? I don’t have a problem with Oregon doing that, but it’s gonna lead to more addictions and deaths, that’s the only possible outcome
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:35 am to TigerintheNO
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Over 1,000 dead in Oregon in two years
Just sad...but maybe it's just a slow start. Those rookie numbers will climb.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:36 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:35 am to TigerintheNO
Legalized drugs, what could go wrong?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:35 am to chinhoyang
quote:Agreed.
sounds like a shitty result rather than a "mixed" result
They don’t even mention any positives in the article.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:35 am to TigerintheNO
Drugs illegal: crime, drug abuse, overdoses, criminal records
Drugs legal: crime, drug abuse, overdoses
Take your pick. At the end of the day, you're asking the tax payer to pay for either prison or rehab and choose freedom or police state. Easy choice IMO.
Drugs legal: crime, drug abuse, overdoses
Take your pick. At the end of the day, you're asking the tax payer to pay for either prison or rehab and choose freedom or police state. Easy choice IMO.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:38 am to Aubie Spr96
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Drugs illegal: crime, drug abuse, overdoses, criminal records Drugs legal: crime, drug abuse, overdoses
I don’t care either way honestly but you need to add the numbers go up a good bit on abuse, overdoses, deaths when legal.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:38 am to TigerintheNO
It was a pretty bold move to legalize all drugs. Gonna need to see this through imo. 2 years during a pandemic can’t be a good set of data to make judgment on.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:40 am to TigerintheNO
Who would have thought…
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:42 am to Aubie Spr96
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Take your pick. At the end of the day, you're asking the tax payer to pay for either prison or rehab and choose freedom or police state. Easy choice IMO.
You seem to be missing a key ingredient to the drugs legal scenario.
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Drugs illegal: crime, drug abuse, overdoses, criminal records
Drugs legal: crime, drug abuse, overdoses, homelessness, blight, city deterioration
We are seeing the result of drug decriminalization. The ones that were in jail, are now on the side of the road, shooting up, panhandling, and literally shitting on the sidewalks. Kids in major cities have to walk around the homeless addict hordes to get off the bus. Thinking decriminalization would lead to anything other than a plague on society was fooling themselves.
Were we really trying to convince ourselves, that the children who wanted "legal drugs" would be responsible enough to take whatever drugs they wanted and not abuse them?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:42 am to chinhoyang
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sounds like a shitty result rather than a "mixed" result
The good news is, less taxpayer money is going toward the very expensive incarceration of drug addicts.
This is quite a dilemma for Oregon taxpayers. What would you rather pay for?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:42 am to TigerintheNO
There used to be aspects of responsibility baked into these programs but they have been abandoned and the results are disastrous.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:43 am to Scruffy
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Agreed.
They don’t even mention any positives in the article.
They can't admit progressive policies are a disaster so they have to church it up any way they can
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:43 am to Seen
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but it’s gonna lead to more addictions and deaths, that’s the only possible outcome
How so? People don't start shooting heroin because its decriminalization, and the illegal aspect of it doesn't really deter them from trying it. If you are sticking a needle in your veins it's to get high the law be damned, and honestly the illegal aspect of it might even make it seem even more alluring to try to some.
But anyone shooting dope is already doing other stuff too,I doubt anyone starts on shooting h.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:45 am to Harry Morgan
quote:Most places that have done this have seen positive results. I wouldn’t take using only a two year time frame from Oregon as a slam dunk when we have decades worth of data from other full countries
Who would have thought…
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:46 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:46 am to Scruffy
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They don’t even mention any positives in the article.
Sure they did. 1000 drug heads are dead.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:47 am to crewdepoo
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2 years during a pandemic can’t be a good set of data to make judgment on.
This was my first thought. Drug use and overdoses were up everywhere during the last 2 years. Not exactly a solid data set to go off of. No one is saying "well since it's legal now, I'm going to start shooting up heroin.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:48 am to TigerintheNO
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But Oregon still has among the highest addiction rates in the country. Fatal overdoses have increased almost 20% over the previous year, with over a thousand dead.
Isn't that number pretty close to the national average?
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