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re: Minneapolis police body cam of shooting

Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:32 pm to
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Maybe that's your thought process and mentality for something like this
It is not a thought process. It is proper training in every cop academy and CC class.
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Not to mention, guys already on the ground. "Let me just pop 2 or 3 more in him just in case". There is a difference between necessary and excessive.
Once the guy pulls the gun, "just in case" is reason enough to keep shooting. Idiot.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 1:33 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:34 pm to
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Once the guy pulls the gun "just in case" is reason enough to keep shooting. Idiot.

I see no problem here. Dude was being chased by police and pulled a gun. Case closed
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:34 pm to
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Not to mention, guys already on the ground. "Let me just pop 2 or 3 more in him just in case". There is a difference between necessary and excessive.

He's on the ground for a split second, so you don't fire off 2 or 3 more. He manages to quickly point and shoot, shoots and kills you.

Is it worth that risk for a guy who is trying to kill you?
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:35 pm to
I can only speak as a person that's never been in this type of situation. So heck for all i know if i were, i'd probably be popping off shot because i wouldn't want to get shot.

Just bringing a different thought into the conversation.

As far as oh boy ditching his gun for a taser...yeah, idk. He somewhat or really set himself up for failure with that one. Either way, as someone who hasn't been in that situation, I can only say 6+ shots is a lot
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:36 pm to
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Once the guy pulls the gun, "just in case" is reason enough to keep shooting. Idiot.


Taking it a little personal sweetheart. Calm ya tits.

Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:36 pm to
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As far as oh boy ditching his gun for a taser...yeah, idk. He somewhat or really set himself up for failure with that one. Either way, as someone who hasn't been in that situation, I can only say 6+ shots is a lot


Go watch some videos of dudes on bath salts. They get shot 10+ times and still go after the shooters.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:36 pm to
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As far as oh boy ditching his gun for a taser...yeah, idk. He somewhat or really set himself up for failure with that one.
Seemed like a decision with good intentions, but it showed the reason why you don't do something like that. When the guy takes a shot or goes for his gun, you basically have to shoot to kill and keep shooting until you are 100% certain that the threat is neutralized.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:38 pm to
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He's on the ground for a split second, so you don't fire off 2 or 3 more. He manages to quickly point and shoot, shoots and kills you. Is it worth that risk for a guy who is trying to kill you?


And you're right. But its really hypothetical. Like oh girl said, "you shot to kill". And if thats the case for cop training, which i seemingly have doubt but im not a cop nor have i dont the training, then is what it is.

Plus, i'm sure if i were in that situation as anyone else, would probably do the same. All i said was it seemed excessive.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88419 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:38 pm to
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Taking it a little personal sweetheart. Calm ya tits.
I don't take your stupidity personal, darling.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88419 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Like oh girl said
I'm not a girl. 0-3 in this thread.

Although I honestly thought you were since you rationalize with your emotions and not logic.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:42 pm to
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And you're right. But its really hypothetical. Like oh girl said, "you shot to kill". And if thats the case for cop training, which i seemingly have doubt but im not a cop nor have i dont the training, then is what it is.

Plus, i'm sure if i were in that situation as anyone else, would probably do the same. All i said was it seemed excessive.


So you don't know the training, haven't done the training but think if you were in the situation you would probably do the same yet think it's excessive?
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
12925 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:42 pm to
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But the family is willing to watch that and still make statements to whip up the public. I just wish the family would say:

"We loved him and wish he wasn't dead but he made a bad choice."

Why anger the public and prompt demonstrations and possibly more violence?



how can they say all that and still be the victims? doesn't work out for them like that. gotta be a victim to get sympathy and air time.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:43 pm to
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I don't take your stupidity personal, darling.


Whatever you say sugar tits. It's called bringing a different insight into the convo. Some get it, other DAs don't
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88419 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:47 pm to
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It's called bringing a different insight into the convo.
What? You being wrong?
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:51 pm to
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So you don't know the training, haven't done the training but think if you were in the situation you would probably do the same yet think it's excessive?


Not tryin to step on my own toes with what i said but as far as training goes maybe that is what's thought. Whoever is a cop in this thread can enlighten us on that. Or whoever has taken the training.

When i saw the video and saw him go down and shots were still being popped off. It comes off excessive IMO. Like someone said earlier, you're in a tense situation like that and see someone else with a gun willing to possibly use it against you, you're thinking "Better him than me" at the time when you pull the trigger.

I see someone go down after two or three shots, its worth thinking "I got this guy". 3+ more shots after that, idk. But thats just what im thinking 'a-loud' given the fact that he's already down. But like it was stated, dude could roll over and pull one off.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:52 pm to
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What? You being wrong?


Idc about being wrong. Just bringing a different thought into the convo. If i'm wrong, cool with me. Learn and move on
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:54 pm to
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FieldMink


You're one of those people that like to talk just to talk, huh. You are talking in circles and it's making you sound like an idiot.
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
8493 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:57 pm to
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What does it take for people to accept that a police shooting is justified? Do the police need to let the guy shoot them a couple of times first?


The “anti cop” theme has been carried so far that people can’t see the truth, even if it’s staring you in the face. Their agenda will be narrated, truth be damned.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88419 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:58 pm to
He has reverted to defending his dumb comments by claiming they at least further the conversation. It doesn't matter that they aren't valid and ignore facts.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:59 pm to
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You're one of those people that like to talk just to talk, huh. You are talking in circles and it's making you sound like an idiot.


No, not really. Guess i sound like an idiot on an opinion thread 'shrugs'
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