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re: Minimum wage battle is going to destroy small businesses!
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:13 pm to SwampyWaters
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:13 pm to SwampyWaters
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but they simply can't find people who want to work and that's sad.
If employees complain about pay rate, they are told to suck t up and that they are worth what the market will pay them.
If employers complain about not getting enough workers, the potential employees who refuse to work for them are all of a sudden lazy.
If your pay rate isn't yielding workers or workers who are up to your standards, then perhaps you aren't paying enough. shite works both ways.
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:14 pm to dcrews
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If your pay rate isn't yielding workers or workers who are up to your standards, then perhaps you aren't paying enough. shite works both ways.
Or the government is getting in the way... Incentivizing not working is a huge problem
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:14 pm to dcrews
No shite?
It's why very few places actually pay min wage
It's why very few places actually pay min wage
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:15 pm to SwampyWaters
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I have several friends that own small businesses and they all say the same thing, it's not the wage that's the problem, but they simply can't find people who want to work and that's sad.
Its a common refrain, the problem is that anyone singing it is whining about the foundation of a free market economy. The supply of people willing to work for low wages is far less than the demand for people willing to work for low wages. If a business is reliant upon a supply of low wage workers that business is doomed to fail anyway. This is the foundation of a free market.
Low wage employers have relied upon the largesse of the collective to remain viable for a long time. The collective is no longer willing to support low wage employers with more and more social welfare programs. It is time for employers to foot the bill for the production costs of their employees from the revenue of the business, not part of the revenue and subsidies from taxpayers helping their employees out with food, housing, transportation and a host of other things that the employer should be paying for.
The cost of a Big Mac is not only what consumers pay at the register, its what all taxpayers, consumers of big macs or not, pay in taxes which go to low wage employees. This is another basic function of a free market...there ain't no free lunch. Far better for consumers and businesses to pay the entire cost of lunch than relying on taxpayers to keep the cost at the register artificially low.
We should be pushing for this movement as a nation. It is the foundation of a free market economy.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:16 pm to Jbird
If this is the case what’s the issue?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:16 pm to fareplay
You retards are running high school students out of the market
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:17 pm to LNCHBOX
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Or the government is getting in the way... Incentivizing not working is a huge problem
On balance, do you think the government is more pro-business, pro-labor, or neutral?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:17 pm to Jbird
This is the most moronic thing I’ve heard. Sure let the high school student leave school so he can work at McDonald’s
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:18 pm to fareplay
Man u are fricking brain damaged you silly frick
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:18 pm to Deactived
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Its weird that they cant seem to grasp that some people dont give a shite about anything or care about improving their situation. They dont care about having kids when they cant afford them. They dont care about raising those kids to be anything but shitheads.
Plenty of people just suck. Giving them more money just means theyre going to be giving it right back to the successful people
Exactly.
Mmmmmcreampie brought up "42 million in poverty" yet supports bringing in millions of no skill workers from the third world.
I've seen guys quit the railroad, making very good money, because it messed with their social life. Saw them working part time at Auto Zone the next month happy as a clam.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:20 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Its a common refrain, the problem is that anyone singing it is whining about the foundation of a free market economy. The supply of people willing to work for low wages is far less than the demand for people willing to work for low wages. If a business is reliant upon a supply of low wage workers that business is doomed to fail anyway. This is the foundation of a free market.
Low wage employers have relied upon the largesse of the collective to remain viable for a long time. The collective is no longer willing to support low wage employers with more and more social welfare programs. It is time for employers to foot the bill for the production costs of their employees from the revenue of the business, not part of the revenue and subsidies from taxpayers helping their employees out with food, housing, transportation and a host of other things that the employer should be paying for.
The cost of a Big Mac is not only what consumers pay at the register, its what all taxpayers, consumers of big macs or not, pay in taxes which go to low wage employees. This is another basic function of a free market...there ain't no free lunch. Far better for consumers and businesses to pay the entire cost of lunch than relying on taxpayers to keep the cost at the register artificially low.
We should be pushing for this movement as a nation. It is the foundation of a free market economy.
These people can't process supply and demand curves.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:22 pm to fareplay
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Oh no my profits!” Bad businesses deserve to die anyways so if you can’t compete just die off.
Just out of curiosity...do you complain about inequity of "_______ deserts" in urban areas?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:22 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:quote:These people can't process supply and demand curves.
Its a common refrain, the problem is that anyone singing it is whining about the foundation of a free market economy. The supply of people willing to work for low wages is far less than the demand for people willing to work for low wages. If a business is reliant upon a supply of low wage workers that business is doomed to fail anyway. This is the foundation of a free market.
Low wage employers have relied upon the largesse of the collective to remain viable for a long time. The collective is no longer willing to support low wage employers with more and more social welfare programs. It is time for employers to foot the bill for the production costs of their employees from the revenue of the business, not part of the revenue and subsidies from taxpayers helping their employees out with food, housing, transportation and a host of other things that the employer should be paying for.
The cost of a Big Mac is not only what consumers pay at the register, its what all taxpayers, consumers of big macs or not, pay in taxes which go to low wage employees. This is another basic function of a free market...there ain't no free lunch. Far better for consumers and businesses to pay the entire cost of lunch than relying on taxpayers to keep the cost at the register artificially low.
We should be pushing for this movement as a nation. It is the foundation of a free market economy.
So if we nearly double the labor costs, we should expect the prices to remain the same and our taxes to go down, yea?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:24 pm to Jbird
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No shite?
It's why very few places actually pay min wage
Was commenting towards the poster who was talking about a business that "can't find workers".
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:30 pm to dcrews
Yeah I saw that!
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:32 pm to armytiger96
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Can you use any economic principles or "laws" to demonstrate how an increase in minimum wage results in job growth? How come "follow the science" doesn't apply here?
If arbitrarily upping the “minimum wage” helps folks get out of poverty, why is it never been tried in places like Africa?
Surely just handing out money solves poverty. I mean, what other things might happen to an economy (costs of goods and services) if money is so easily obtained?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:35 pm to LNCHBOX
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So if we nearly double the labor costs, we should expect the prices to remain the same and our taxes to go down, yea?
No. Prices would rise, or margins would be reduced. Either one is fine with me. McDonald's shareholders and their customers can pay for the labor of McDonald's employees instead of joe taxpayer.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:37 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Africa is a continent bruv
Countries in Africa do raise their minimum wages. South Africa raised the minimum a month ago.
Countries in Africa do raise their minimum wages. South Africa raised the minimum a month ago.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:38 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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Surely just handing out money solves poverty. I mean, what other things might happen to an economy (costs of goods and services) if money is so easily obtained?
You can become a 100,000,000,000,000 (100 trillionaire) in Zimbabwean currency for the low low low exchange rate of roughly 40 cents US
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:38 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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McDonald's shareholders and their customers can pay for the labor of McDonald's employees instead of joe taxpayer.
No, they'll fire them and replace with machines.
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