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re: Millennials make more money than any other gen. did at their age, but are way less wealthy

Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:02 pm to
That what I stated was a true statement for the first term and all actions taken therein.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:02 pm to
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What market besides living the middle of nowhere, costs "50% less".

You realize the MEDIAN home price in this country is now over 300k and has risen at an exponentially faster rater than all of history since 1997?

You don't think there are markets where the homes cost half of what they do in say the Nashville or Austin metros? There are nice places to live for a family where a home doesn't cost 500-600k+.
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:02 pm to
I am just fine, thanks. And I don't need to worry about blaming anyone else for questionable decisions.

Because I have made those sacrifices and worked hard, I have more money than I realistically ever care to spend.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:04 pm to
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well... it took a few more pages than it usually does to get to the rabble rabble victim mentality rabble rabble always whining rabble rabble part of the thread.


Honestly these are some of your best work. Otherwise rational people just come out swinging utter bullshite with absolute conviction.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:04 pm to
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That what I stated was a true statement for the first term and all actions taken therein.


Good grief. You are really this dug in.

You're also ignoring that Kennedy only won because the Democrat party made him include Johnson on the ticket so they could hold the South. A good percentage of the vote was actually for Johnson in spite of Kennedy.
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:06 pm to
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Perhaps one positive thing to come from Covid is maybe there will be more remote work and people can spread out a little more. I think it remains to be seen how permanent some of this is.

I don't know if moving to the middle of nowhere has mass appeal to most young families but if you could do your same job based out of Nashville from another market where housing costs 50% less that might be appealing to a lot of people.


100%

I do think the appeal would be there for some. If there were 30 families that wanted to go build in some aesthetically nice rural area and all of us were professionals who could work remotely - I'd be pretty interested in something like that.

Right now that is the province of the rich. I remember some years ago families from Highland Park were doing that in Montana/Wyoming. I think that's previously happened (also with Dallas families) outside of Red River in NM. But it's a model that becomes more feasible and more accessible for real life (rather than vacation/rec) if people genuinely become untethered from cities.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:06 pm to
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90% of boomers weren’t old enough to vote. That was the greatest generation and silent generation voting for him over Goldwater.
Boomers are 1946-1964. Only part of 1946 was able to vote in 1964. The Boomer LBJ claim is bizarre.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:09 pm to
There’s jealousy from the boomer side that is obvious to me. Guys who immediately left college to get married and live in suburbs are likely jealous of younger folk who get to or have had carefree experience in cities.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:09 pm to
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You're also ignoring that Kennedy only won because the Democrat party made him include Johnson on the ticket so they could hold the South. A good percentage of the vote was actually for Johnson in spite of Kennedy.


Yeah, because SOOOOOO many people decide which candidate to vote for based on who their VP is
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296800 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:11 pm to
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Our money is worth less and our biggest essential living expenses (with the exception of food which has only exploded in price this year) cost significantly more.


It all depends on where you live.

The average home price is 300k today, which isn't prohibitive. With the interest rates we get today, it's cheap.

I can't help you if you choose to live in an expensive area where you feel your lifestyle is better expressed. That's on you.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18838 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:12 pm to
You realize how many jobs would be lost of people only bought cars with cash and people only went to college would could pay for it with cash?

You cannot physically pay tuition on a $20/hour job (which is better than most), while going to school full time.

Do the math, its not possible anymore at just about any school besides a JUCO or something along those lines.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:13 pm to
Well, working from home is one thing. But you then have to make a decision where you’d like your children to go to school. Much of small town Tennessee (where I grew up) does not have great schools.

And if you want to send tour kid to a private school, well now you likely have to commute back into the city to take them to school, even though you work from home.

The biggest issue in all of this is simple. Millennials have tons of student loan debt.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:13 pm to
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You realize how many jobs would be lost of people only bought cars with cash and people only went to college would could pay for it with cash?


The last thing I care about when making personal choices, for me, is how it affects mythical society.

Why would you need cash? Borrowed money is damn near free today. Another huge perk.
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12214 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:14 pm to
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Yeah, because SOOOOOO many people decide which candidate to vote for based on who their VP is

You've been giving us 1960s history lessons all morning. Now you're gonna pretend like you don't know what really happened with Southern Dixiecrats at the time? Merely being a Catholic (aka "papist") almost cost JFK the election, without LBJ's electoral asssurances.

Even today, Evangelical Christians largely voted for Trump because Pence was his Veep. For someone so convinced they know so much, you sure are selectively ignorant about a lot.
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 1:10 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:14 pm to
i love all the very specific micro solutions to the macro problems. always enlightening stuff.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18838 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:15 pm to
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You don't think there are markets where the homes cost half of what they do in say the Nashville or Austin metros? There are nice places to live for a family where a home doesn't cost 500-600k+.



It's still massively inflated everywhere.

50% of that is $300k. That's a $1500 mortgage with 20% down.

That's not chump change against job markets in those areas unless youre a doctor, dentist or super successful small business owner.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18838 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:16 pm to
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Millennials have tons of student loan debt.


Which has everything to do with their choices and nothing to do with sky rocketing tuition costs right?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296800 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:16 pm to
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It's still massively inflated everywhere.


Nah. Again, the median home price is affordable.

Except in very specific locations.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119988 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:16 pm to
Pick yourself by the bootstraps, live in the middle of nowhere, and feed yourself beans
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 10/12/21 at 12:16 pm to
The credit market and culture are different games across those 2 generations.
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