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re: Millennial wealth is still lagging behind previous generations at the same age

Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:16 pm to
Closer to ‘90 than ‘96

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that thread where you knighted for Millennials was like that nerd toddler kid on the playground trying to play with the big kids.. Its sad really.

link ?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:16 pm to
And most people stay at a job several years before switching so they are only missing out on a relatively small portion. Also as the poster above me said, most places now start matching from day one so there is really no penalty for switching
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:16 pm to
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i have never seen this. the old model of working for 5 years before you can participate is all but gone. even state and federal jobs have gone to a 401k style plan over the racket of pensions.




These plans typically have waiting periods.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:17 pm to
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There are too many variables to answer this honestly.


Yea, I'm calling bull ****
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:18 pm to
But do they actually because none of my friends had a waiting period before employer contribution.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:18 pm to
Not true. Most companies have a short waiting period like you mentioned (say 6 months). If you lose 6 months every two years because you are switching jobs then over a career that is a lot of time lost.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:19 pm to
Most places only have 6 month waiting period before the employer matches. I’ve never heard of a job that doesn’t allow you to contribute to 401k right away.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:19 pm to
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People born in 1990 remember a time before cell phones and the internet were mainstream, the world before 9/11, the Super Nintendo, and Michael Jordan playing basketball.
they might vaguely remember that stuff that people grew up with that were born in the 80s. the child hoods were different. I am semi trolling greatlakes because he is the kid trying to get in the adults car. but the "accepted" millennial age range should be split. someone born in 1983 are a completely different child hood as some one born in 1993. Which is because of the internet. the childhood of someone from 1951 is basically that same as someone fro 1961.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:19 pm to
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Not true. Most companies have a short waiting period like you mentioned (say 6 months). If you lose 6 months every two years because you are switching jobs then over a career that is a lot of time lost.

1) I’ve never heard of that
2) it’s probably offset by a signing bonus
Posted by CarRamrod
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:20 pm to
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Kids born in 2000 have never known a world without the internet and prominent cell/smartphones.

The same cannot be said about kids born in the 90s.


you think a 5 year old knew the world without internet?
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:20 pm to
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You missed the point. Gen X and Boomers were wealthier than their millennial counterparts at the same age. Boomers were far wealthier than Gen X’rs were at that point.


Cause we worked for it and didn't need a set of truck nuts.

My kids, one a xer and the other a millennial both own there houses. Yes, they worked for it.

Oh, both didn't go out for coffee or craft beers.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:20 pm to
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1) I’ve never heard of that


I had a 6 month waiting period at my job before I could participate in the retirement plan.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:21 pm to
Trust me on this. It happens a lot.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:21 pm to
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According to anyone over the age of 50, 100% of blue-collar workers own their own businesses and make 6 figures.


Then why do they look so damn poor?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:21 pm to
Yeah but we know proper grammar
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:23 pm to
My point is for every 4 years of work you miss out on year on contributions and matches if vested. That is pretty sizable. This is assuming you switch every 2 years.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:23 pm to
Three major things causing this.
1. Student debt
2. Rent cost
3. Car note cost
It's hard to generate wealth when you are constantly paying increasing debts while wages remain relatively stagnant.

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Bachelor degree gets you a job working fast food. Masters and Dr is what differentiates you now. So Delay actual work by 8 yrs.
While a bit exaggerated, this is a very valid point. A lot of major companies have switched to hiring their people out of grad school.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:23 pm to
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Most companies have a short waiting period like you mentioned (say 6 months)
no company i have ever worked for/interviewed with.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:24 pm to
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2) it’s probably offset by a signing bonus


Which is more often than not spent and not saved.
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:26 pm to
Close, most guys are around 17-18 an hour. But, that goes 100% by billable hours for most. It can be a grind for some of those guys, I was a helper throughout college. When the work gets SLOW, you can barely scrape 20 hours a week during the winter.
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