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re: Millenial homeowners "get real" about their success

Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:17 pm to
It was a joke, genius.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:18 pm to
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It was a joke, genius
I must've been confused by it not being funny, my bad
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:18 pm to
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You suggested 3 years of owning a condo earlier and selling to use equity towards a new place


Link?

I don't believe I said own a condo for three years
Posted by RealityTiger
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:20 pm to
All it takes is a certain demographic to start moving in next door to your condo.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:21 pm to
In my line of work I see many people every year buying homes that have no business buying home. 2-3 years later ro when their homestead runs out they are upside down in payments, stressed out their mind, destroying their credit

You can see it coming from a mile away. Often times it is their agent convincing them how much smarter it is to buy than rent and that will work because first time homeowners do not know any better. Hell for the most part they know absolutely nothing about what goes into buying a house
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:22 pm to
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People lose money all the time by purchasing property. All it takes is one flood or one big repair.


Sure, does it happen? Yes. Is it the norm? No. And compared to renting - which is a guaranteed loss - its a much wiser investment.

I never said to run out and buy a problem home. But, as to my initial point, there are dozens and dozens of inexpensive, relatively safe homes to buy in BR for young people looking for their first home.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:34 pm to
I still have yet to see 160k homes in BR. Condos aren’t homes.
Posted by pizzatiger
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:38 pm to
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Sure, does it happen? Yes. Is it the norm? No. And compared to renting - which is a guaranteed loss - its a much wiser investment.




I'm not confident in that. If you actually do all of the math, a lot of homeowners are losing money over renting. They might tell you otherwise at a dinner party, but tons of them are not adding up all of the costs of home ownership.

Interest, insurance, taxes, transaction costs, repairs/maintenance, possibly higher power/water bills, more gasoline for your car, odds and ends. It all adds up and few people are keeping a running total.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:39 pm to
Do you understand what Equity is?
Posted by pizzatiger
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:41 pm to
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Do you understand what Equity is?



Yes, and you are paying very little into equity until you've owned for a while. Most of your payment is interest.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:42 pm to
Here is a 190k amortization table. LINK

Congrats, in the first 5 years you have built 19k in equity.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Yes, and you are paying very little into equity until you've owned for a while. Most of your payment is interest


well of course it depends on the loan each individual gets. But the point the poster was making that you replied to was that earning equity in a house is much better than just renting and getting nothing.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:46 pm to
That assumes the value of the home is stagnant, no?
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Congrats, in the first 5 years you have built 19k in equity


that is 19k more than a renter would have.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 2:47 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:47 pm to
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That assumes the value of the home is stagnant, no?


you are putting to many variables. Not sure if they can keep up.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:49 pm to
I mean, what would be an acceptable annual growth rate? At 1% that would be worth $200k so roughly $30k in equity?
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:49 pm to
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that is 19k more than a renter would have.

How many repair costs has the renter paid? How much less in utility has the renter paid? When you sell remember to take off that 6% from the realtor. Also, dont forget to deduct the closing costs and fees from your equity to be comparable.


It isnt a slam dunk at all to buy vs rent when starting out if you dont plan on staying for a while
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:50 pm to
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you are putting to many variables. Not sure if they can keep up.


Are you assuming other negative quantifiable values or just trying to stick to pointing out positives?
Posted by pizzatiger
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:50 pm to
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that is 19k more than a renter would have.



So you think it's realistic to live in a house for 5 years and put zero money into it? Realtor fees? Higher utilities? More gas in your car?

I would spend $100 more in gas to buy a house in the burbs. That's $6k in 5 years in gas alone!
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:52 pm to
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So you think it's realistic to live in a house for 5 years and put zero money into it?


These are the same people who said earlier in the thread that young people should be buying fixer uppers and shite that hasn't been updated in 30 years.
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