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re: “Mental health” is stupid
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:43 am to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:43 am to LSUFanHouston
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For most of history, people "grin it and bear it" until they could not anymore.
For most of history and for most people who do not live in the West today, and those in the West with real responsibilities, they had to or have to "grin it and bear it" because, if you don't, you and your communities survival is at stake.
What accounts for most "mental health" today is fundamentally not a need, but a luxury good or service.
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:50 am to Cledus
Sure, some people are too soft because they don't challenge themselves but mental health is real.
For the soft western people, the issue is they think happiness is the default state of a human. Anything that is not happiness is absolutely horrible to them. Happiness is an emotion we should enjoy, not abuse. Feel the highs of happiness, and the lows of sadness. But you need a balance. Understanding this balance is part of proper mental health.
A lot of celebs turn to drugs because they need that dopamine happiness high 24/7. When you own everything you want, nothing will make you happy anymore. So you have to chemically numb yourself.
Excess of anything is evil, moderation is good and the key to a fulfilling life.
For the soft western people, the issue is they think happiness is the default state of a human. Anything that is not happiness is absolutely horrible to them. Happiness is an emotion we should enjoy, not abuse. Feel the highs of happiness, and the lows of sadness. But you need a balance. Understanding this balance is part of proper mental health.
A lot of celebs turn to drugs because they need that dopamine happiness high 24/7. When you own everything you want, nothing will make you happy anymore. So you have to chemically numb yourself.
Excess of anything is evil, moderation is good and the key to a fulfilling life.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:55 am to Cledus
me and a buddy had this discussion just yesterday. Most people with serious mental health issues or disorders fight everyday to live as normally as possible. They will go to the ends of the Earth to hid the fact that they are depressed, bi-polar etc.
In contrast, there is a group of people in the age of attention who parade their "mental health issues" around on their sleeve. They inject it into every conversation, post about it etc. This is self-serving as hell and probably what you are upset with...and I hate it too.
In contrast, there is a group of people in the age of attention who parade their "mental health issues" around on their sleeve. They inject it into every conversation, post about it etc. This is self-serving as hell and probably what you are upset with...and I hate it too.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:58 am to Cledus
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Naomi Osaka
Not defending or excusing her French Open actions, but she has a long history of pretty severe depression that she takes medication and counseling for.
Depression can hit anyone, even rich and famous athletes.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:06 am to Muthsera
Agreed about depression being a GenZ go to. My 18 year old niece wants to have something wrong with her so bad. She will even say, "I've got depression and anxiety." Didnt realize it was a generational issue.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:08 am to Cledus
Weird melt bozo
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:10 am to Cledus
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Frankly, I’m sick and tired of hearing about all this mental health bullshite.
Get used to it. We’re having to turn away clients because of the boom post-COVID. And no, you can’t just “grin and bear it” and make it go away.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:15 am to roberma
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Agreed about depression being a GenZ go to. My 18 year old niece wants to have something wrong with her so bad. She will even say, "I've got depression and anxiety." Didnt realize it was a generational issue.
Angsty teens wanting a diagnosis to legitimize their angst has been a thing forever. I think most grow out of it. The number of high school girls and college girls I knew who were on anxiety/depression meds and who've long since moved on and stopped medicating is pretty amazing. My wife will talk about how she was one of the few in her sorority who wasn't being prescribed something.
I think we've got a cultural rot problem that is making it really difficult to discern who has serious disorders and who is suffering from the ideologies and environments that surround them.
It doesn't help that our elites are now teaching people to catastrophize everything, in total contradiction to CBT.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:15 am to roberma
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Agreed about depression being a GenZ go to.
This is what happens when kids don’t know how to be bored. Too many kids have a screen in front of their face all day so mommy and daddy can slave away to afford to make sure they can get their kid a new iPhone. It’s only going to get worse.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:16 am to roberma
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Agreed about depression being a GenZ go to. My 18 year old niece wants to have something wrong with her so bad. She will even say, "I've got depression and anxiety." Didnt realize it was a generational issue.
The casual usage of things like taking a "mental health day" off work stretched the meaning to the point it lacks any real definition. That, and everyone who gets the situational blues think they now have a clinical illness. Thinks like schizophrenia are debilitating, and I certainly don't put those folks in the same realm of these pop science self diagnoses of depression, anxiety and bi polar.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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That, and everyone who gets the situational blues think they now have a clinical illness
If a therapist us diagnosing someone with situational blues with MDD then they’re in direct violation of their ethics code as the DSM pretty clearly defines the difference.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:25 am to BluegrassBelle
What if the therapist is a dumbass? There’s lots of dumbasses in every profession.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:27 am to LSUballs
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There’s lots of dumbasses in every profession.
Correct.
So we should just throw the baby out with the bath water because a small percentage of therapists are “dumbasses” and act like people aren’t really depressed?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:29 am to BluegrassBelle
I’m not sure what is going on with this tennis player but mental health is a big deal in this country...... I have gone through bouts of depression on more than one occasion especially the last 6 years dealing with my illness and not being able to to be the person I was before I got sick..... I’m not saying some don’t use it as an excuse but it’s out there big time....... I don’t care who or what you are.... you can’t EVER tell what a random person is thinking.....
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:31 am to Cledus
I don't care to comment on Naomi, I don't know what she's going through and whatnot.
But mental health is a real life issue that affects millions of people. It's not a made-up Boogeyman like racism is many times.
The very things that fricks up alot of folks' mental health?
But mental health is a real life issue that affects millions of people. It's not a made-up Boogeyman like racism is many times.
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What happened to stoicism? What happened to the grin and bear it mentality?
The very things that fricks up alot of folks' mental health?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
I am not going to tackle every dumb idea put forward in this thread, but as someone who works in psychiatry, the idea that depression and anxiety are minor issues and can be pushed through is so off base. These conditions manifest themselves in wildly different ways and degrees, often overlapping between each other which makes proper diagnosis more difficult, and for someone experiencing the extremes, or even the moderate to mild in intense bursts, depression and anxiety alone can have serious consequences short and long term.
Bi-polar is a different animal, and excusing ADHD, I’d agree is the most misdiagnosed mental illness because it involves interval episodes between extremes. The false diagnosis often comes in the form of the more newly mented Bi-Polar 2 I find. True swings between high mania and low depression is also extremely dangerous as well though.
Bi-polar is a different animal, and excusing ADHD, I’d agree is the most misdiagnosed mental illness because it involves interval episodes between extremes. The false diagnosis often comes in the form of the more newly mented Bi-Polar 2 I find. True swings between high mania and low depression is also extremely dangerous as well though.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:34 am to QJenk
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The very things that fricks up alot of folks' mental health?
I think throwing pills at the situation did more damage than stoicism.
Now, people can't deal with slight issues without being overwhelmed. Running to the doctor every time you are anxious or sad is not a great idea.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:38 am to Cledus
Have you ever been interviewed on camera by the media? I can tell you from years of experience that if you have bad, unresolved anxiety issues to begin with, they multiply as soon as you know you're about to get hit with questions. She just wants to play the game, not be a media monkey.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 10:39 am
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:38 am to Cledus
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I see this excuse in the same vain as somebody throwing the race card down. When somebody uses it, it’s like there’s a protective shield around them and you can’t refute what they said or you’re somehow a piece of shite.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:39 am to BluegrassBelle
I've yet to meet one who isn't or wouldn't paradoxically test as having a Narcissist Personality Disorder according to their own DSM.
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