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Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:06 pm to AUstar
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but why did he get a life sentence?
Mandatory sentence
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:07 pm to fightin tigers
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It's the rules. Can't withold evidence that could prove innocence.
Assuming that prosecution had the evidence and didn't share it.
It's called exculpatory evidence and if proven that it was withheld, not only should she get a new trial but the prosecutors from the first trial should have their own trial, and at the very least be disbarred.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:09 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Did the victim's credibility play any role? I thought the main evidence was a video of the incident (which speaks for itself).
Just finished the opinion. The very short version is that the video cuts in during the act, so there's no evidence of whether she consented or didn't consent. She testified that she has no recollection of that night, so she can't testify to consent either way. However, she testified that, as a categorical, she would never consent to a threesome and allow it to be filmed. However, there was evidence that was kept out that she had previously engaged in filmed sex with multiple people, engaged in filmed sex with masks, and the later found affidavit outlines that she had had group sex with multiple other couples.
While none of that contradicts the video itself, it does potentially undermine her testimony that, in spite of the fact that she can't say she didn't consent, she can say with certainty that she would never consent under those circumstances.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:11 pm to fightin tigers
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Assuming that prosecution had the evidence and didn't share it.
I said in the original thread this girl got completely screwed over by the DA office and prosecutors. She didn’t mess with any kids and they ended up giving her a stiffer sentence than the two pedophiles with the atrocities they performed.
They should have sanctions against them by the bar association.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:12 pm to deeprig9
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It's called exculpatory evidence and if proven that it was withheld, not only should she get a new trial but the prosecutors from the first trial should have their own trial, and at the very least be disbarred.
At least from this opinion, no indication that it was withheld by the prosecution. Perkins' attorney had it in a box of documents provided by the family. Unless that document was provided to the State, and there's no indication that it was, it's not really anyone's fault. And considering Perkins plead after this trial, I don't think it's reasonable to expect his attorney to have given it to anyone while Perkins' case was still pending.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:13 pm to Townedrunkard
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and they ended up giving her a stiffer sentence than the two pedophiles with the atrocities they performed.
This is what happens when you FAFO with mandatory sentencing
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They should have sanctions against them by the bar association.
The prosecutors did nothing wrong
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:19 pm to phil good
Im guessing she will be looking for a nice plea before the next trial.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:20 pm to AUstar
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I mean sexual assault is wrong, but why did he get a life sentence? And what did this woman have to do with it?
They had a 3 way while the victim was passed out. She licked on the cat and was sentenced to life b/c the prosecution charged it as a gang rape under that statute with the penalty being life….
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:22 pm to JAMAC2001
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Im guessing she will be looking for a nice plea before the next trial.
I'm PRETTY SURE they tried to give her a soft plea (like 10 years or something) and she rejected it to go to trial.
I doubt this affidavit is enough to really change things with a new trial. Curious if they offer her the same deal again b/c they already have 2 convictions for the major people.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:23 pm to Martini
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They railroaded that girl from the beginning. Everyone was out for their pound of flesh and she was the first served up.
She had the most suspicious activities tied to Denny. Double digit trips to Mexico and also involved in voyeurism multiple times. Spare me.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The prosecutors did nothing wrong
I posted before reading the entire thread. I thought the prosecution withheld the fact they knew the victim participated in videotaped sex and with couples etc from the defense. Thats why I said that. The lawyer found out after. If they withheld that, they’d definitely be in some shite.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I doubt this affidavit is enough to really change things with a new trial. Curious if they offer her the same deal again b/c they already have 2 convictions for the major people.
Im not so sure. The conviction with the wife has nothing to do with her. You think the victim is gonna want to testify again? Especially knowing all of her now known ‘experiences’ will get hammered by the defense for the jury to hear.
I could see a plea being offered to a lesser charge with credit for the times she already served so they can close the book on this.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:30 pm to phil good
I’m late to the party here, but the unconscious victim that was raped was Perkins’ wife of the time? And this lady here was sentenced to life in prison?
And did someone just say Mel and Jason as in she was married to the Livingston Chief of Police?!
And did someone just say Mel and Jason as in she was married to the Livingston Chief of Police?!
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:31 pm to Joshjrn
Thanks!! Makes sense now.
I'd probably walk Melanie if I'm on the jury and know that.
I'd probably walk Melanie if I'm on the jury and know that.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:31 pm to AUstar
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I mean sexual assault is wrong, but why did he get a life sentence? And what did this woman have to do with it?
F that POS. He put cum in kids cupcakes.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:34 pm to Townedrunkard
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They had a 3 way while the victim was passed out. She licked on the cat and was sentenced to life b/c the prosecution charged it as a gang rape under that statute with the penalty being life….
It wasn’t a gang rape. Jesus . Read the opinion. Her face was covered, nothing established before the video started, text messages before the night and the next day, the “victim” was Perkins wife at the time, a lot of other videos were not allowed to be shown, photos as well showing other sexual encounters with Perkins and other women with heads covered, videos of defendant giving unidentified male a blowjob to show her promiscuity yet not allowing the above. All that during the trial.
Then the document of her admitting to having sex in video with her husband and other couples.
I stand by my initial post. The girl was railroaded and the victim is a whore.
And she’s not pleading guilty to anything unless it lets her out of prison. From a layman she’s got a good case. That’s my thought.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:36 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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I'd probably walk Melanie if I'm on the jury and know that.
Exactly why I don’t think this ever goes to trial again. Supposedly the victim was there to get drugs from him. And now it’s been established she has a past of engaging in group sex and getting videotaped?
No way you finding 12 people to convict her after all that comes out.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:38 pm to Martini
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It wasn’t a gang rape. Jesus
Yea no shite. But it’s what the prosecutors used to get her on the life sentence.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:38 pm to Martini
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wasn’t a gang rape. Jesus . Read the opinion. Her face was covered, nothing established before the video started, text messages before the night and the next day, the “victim” was Perkins wife at the time, a lot of other videos were not allowed to be shown, photos as well showing other sexual encounters with Perkins and other women with heads covered, videos of defendant giving unidentified male a blowjob to show her promiscuity yet not allowing the above. All that during the trial.
Then the document of her admitting to having sex in video with her husband and other couples.
I stand by my initial post. The girl was railroaded and the victim is a whore.
And she’s not pleading guilty to anything unless it lets her out of prison. From a layman she’s got a good case. That’s my thought.
I don't know what this post is about but it gave me wood.
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