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re: Medical marijuana does not help with anxiety, depression, doubles risk of addiction: study
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:23 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:23 pm to Jim Rockford
Alcohol. Still undefeated.
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:23 pm to Jim Rockford
You don't have to love big pharma or hate weed to acknowledge there is truth to this.
I'm enjoying the effects of some green crack dabs right now, but cannabis's health effects are a double-edged sword IMO. It can relieve stress and anxiety in some situations but make it way worse in others. It's not addictive in the traditional sense but I've seen way too many people rely on it as a long term mental crutch/escape from shite they probably should just face instead.
I'm enjoying the effects of some green crack dabs right now, but cannabis's health effects are a double-edged sword IMO. It can relieve stress and anxiety in some situations but make it way worse in others. It's not addictive in the traditional sense but I've seen way too many people rely on it as a long term mental crutch/escape from shite they probably should just face instead.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:24 pm to Dire Wolf
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Medical marijuana has always been a gateway to legalization.
Even if true, that’s ok.
But pot gives relief to plenty people for plenty ailments.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:25 pm to Jim Rockford
Went to the link to the study, and here's the truth...
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The study was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA).
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:26 pm to LSUnation78
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Ignore drunk driving deaths.
The real issue is CUD!
That is a classic red herring.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:27 pm to tigerinthebueche
So then you’re obviously able to explain why alcohol is good for you.
Please, go on. Im eager to learn.
Please, go on. Im eager to learn.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:27 pm to Jim Rockford
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MGH researchers began their trial in 2017 with 269 adults (average age of 37) from the greater Boston area who were interested in obtaining a medical marijuana card. One group was allowed to get MMCs immediately, while the second group, designed to serve as a control, was asked to wait 12 weeks before obtaining a card. Both groups were tracked over 12 weeks. The team found that the odds of developing CUD were nearly two times higher in the MMC cohort than in the wait list control group, and that by week 12, 10 percent of the MMC group had developed a CUD diagnosis, with the number rising to 20 percent in those seeking a card for anxiety or depression.
Eh. Ok. 20-40 out of 269 patients developing a very subjective diagnosis of "CUD" is somewhat significant. But im still willing to take the risk with 20 years of personal anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
That's what we're all about right? Personal choice?
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:27 pm to efrad
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You don't have to love big pharma or hate weed to acknowledge there is truth to this.
I'm enjoying the effects of some green crack dabs right now, but cannabis's health effects are a double-edged sword IMO. It can relieve stress and anxiety in some situations but make it way worse in others. It's not addictive in the traditional sense but I've seen way too many people rely on it as a long term mental crutch/escape from shite they probably should just face instead.
So here's my question.
How is this any different than someone taking an anti-depressant who develops suicidal ideation or intrusive thoughts as a side effect and has to switch medication?
ANY medication that you consume can have negative side effects for some but not others.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:27 pm to Jim Rockford
They can take their research and blow it out their arse.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:27 pm to Jim Rockford
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Medical marijuana does not help with anxiety, depression, doubles risk of addiction: study
Well, that's a lie.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:29 pm to mdomingue
So you agree, alcohol should be illegal?
Its not misleading to point out that there is something already “legal” which does more harm than anything mentioned here.
Its not misleading to point out that there is something already “legal” which does more harm than anything mentioned here.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:31 pm to Jim Rockford
Well my personal experience is that it definitely helps with pain and some types also help with anxiety.. in both instances I’d rather use thc than their pharmaceutical counterparts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:31 pm to BluegrassBelle
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So here's my question.
How is this any different than someone taking an anti-depressant who develops suicidal ideation or intrusive thoughts as a side effect and has to switch medication?
ANY medication that you consume can have negative side effects for some but not others.
It's different because weed is way better than taking pharmaceuticals. If you read some kind of endorsement for pharma in my post you've misinterpreted it. I'm very intimately acquainted with both the experiences and chemistry behind most classes of psych drugs and I recommend pretty much none of them except in extreme circumstances.
Like I said, I'm high right now, but I still view it as a vice. Relying on pharmaceuticals would be way worse. And it's a far better vice than drinking alcohol. But I still see it as a vice.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:32 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Cannabis Use disorder...
CUD is a diagnosis code from the Handbook of Mental Disorders for people with problematic marijuana use. Believe it or not there are people for whom marijuana usage interferes with their life, causing problems with there family, and workplace, and they are unable to stop using the substance. Those that seek professional help with the problem are diagnosed with CUD.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:34 pm to efrad
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It's different because weed is way better than taking pharmaceuticals. If you read some kind of endorsement for pharma in my post you've misinterpreted it.
Like I said, I'm high right now, but I still view it as a vice. Relying on pharmaceuticals would be way worse. And it's a far better vice than drinking alcohol. But I still see it as a vice.
Then that's on you. There are folks who definitely use it to medical benefit. That doesn't mean it's a vice for them. It can be life saving for some.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:34 pm to LSUnation78
That’s not the point. No one said anything about alcohol. You just threw that shite out there as if it refutes the findings of the study. Your comment is irrelevant. Which makes it a red herring.
If you’d get off the dope you’d understand that.
If you’d get off the dope you’d understand that.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:35 pm to tigerinthebueche
No, slow Joe. I threw it out there as a comparison. Cause the shite in this study is harmless.
Try to keep up
Try to keep up
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:36 pm to EA6B
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CUD is a diagnosis code from the Handbook of Mental Disorders for people with problematic marijuana use. Believe it or not there are people for whom marijuana usage interferes with their life, causing problems with there family, and workplace, and they are unable to stop using the substance. Those that seek professional help with the problem are diagnosed with CUD.
The problem is that qualifying for CUD is far looser than it affecting your daily life. If you continue to use marijuana after being prescribed it and have withdrawal when you stop, you can be tagged with a CUD diagnosis.
And I'd argue ethically it's being miused in a study like this where they're purposefully looking for that CUD diagnosis. You only need two qualifiers from what I listed, which is seems flimsy at best.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:37 pm to tigerinthebueche
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If you’d get off the dope you’d understand that.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:37 pm to Jim Rockford
I’ve found that the wrong strain can heighten my anxiety. But that’s rare.
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