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re: Medical marijuana does not help with anxiety, depression, doubles risk of addiction: study
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:39 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:39 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Then that's on you. There are folks who definitely use it to medical benefit. That doesn't mean it's a vice for them. It can be life saving for some.
What is on me?
If people are using it for life-saving benefits, they should continue to do so. I don't know why you're implying I suggested otherwise.
But what people shouldn't do is sit on the couch all day long smoking to avoid their actual problems/responsibilities which is also a separate very real issue for weed.
Hence why I said it can be a double-edged sword
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:40 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And I'd argue ethically it's being miused in a study like this where they're purposefully looking for that CUD diagnosis.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:41 pm to Jim Rockford
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The study was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse
Come on now.
I have no stance on marijuana use. I think, like most other things, the pros and cons are both likely exaggerated.
But come on.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:41 pm to efrad
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But what people shouldn't do is sit on the couch all day long smoking to avoid their actual problems/responsibilities which is also a separate very real issue for weed.
Which is literally the same issue for any addictive substance. From opioids to alcohol.
I'd also argue if you're smoking to the point that you're forgoing problems/responsibilities then you likely have a mental disorder beyond just smoking pot. And you'd just do it with another substance if pot wasn't available.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:43 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And then there's who funded the study: quote:
The study was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA).
A organization focused on drug abuse fuming a study on a drug is problematic? Using that logic the American Heart Association should not fund studies concerning things that might cause heart disease.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:45 pm to EA6B
Marijuana isn’t a drug.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:47 pm to LSUnation78
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No, slow Joe. I threw it out there as a comparison. Cause the shite in this study is harmless.
Try to keep up
Just go take another hit brah.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:49 pm to EA6B
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A organization focused on drug abuse fuming a study on a drug is problematic? Using that logic the American Heart Association should not fund studies concerning things that might cause heart disease.
Let me know when we start locking up people in the war on cardiovascular disease
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:50 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I'd also argue if you're smoking to the point that you're forgoing problems/responsibilities then you likely have a mental disorder beyond just smoking pot. And you'd just do it with another substance if pot wasn't available.
I don't disagree. And it's far better than opioids and alcohol in this regard. Yet, you say "literally the same issue" but it is common for people to laugh at the idea that it can be an addictive substance in the first place. It's happening in this thread.
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I'd also argue if you're smoking to the point that you're forgoing problems/responsibilities then you likely have a mental disorder beyond just smoking pot. And you'd just do it with another substance if pot wasn't available.
Again, I don't disagree. But while people have no problem with billboards raising awareness for gambling addiction or alcoholism, the second someone tries to acknowledge that the same issues could exist for weed, they get the reefer madness lunatic label applied to them.
Cannabis is incredibly useful for our society and we should legalize it at every level and use it where it is applicable.
But we also should never forget it has some side effects and risks especially with chronic use. Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:50 pm to The Spleen
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Marijuana isn’t a drug.
“Drug” a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.
Oxygen used in a medical situation is a drug.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:51 pm to TheOrgeronTrail
I use weed, it does nothing for anxiety unless you run out and get anxious.
I have always doubted serious medical benefits, but it should be legal regardless.
I have always doubted serious medical benefits, but it should be legal regardless.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:52 pm to tigerinthebueche
Will that help you keep up with the conversation?
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:52 pm to EA6B
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A organization focused on drug abuse fuming a study on a drug is problematic? Using that logic the American Heart Association should not fund studies concerning things that might cause heart disease.
Apples and oranges.
Other government organizations such as LE, judicial, and corrections benefits from keeping addicts fully in their addiction. And keeping marijuana a Schedule 1 so it can be legislated as such.
I guarantee this study will get used as an excuse to keep marijuana a Schedule 1.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:53 pm to Jim Rockford
On one hand I trust no one
On the other, everyone I've ever met who self-medicates with weed (save for some folks managing chemo) is a screw up
On the other, everyone I've ever met who self-medicates with weed (save for some folks managing chemo) is a screw up
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:53 pm to EA6B
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Oxygen used in a medical situation is a drug.
So growing marijuana actually produces 2 drugs
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 3/24/22 at 1:58 pm to Pettifogger
Maybe it’s the circles I run in(it is) but I know several successful, high functioning pot heads. One of my best friends is a managing partner is fairly large attorney’s office. Another is a senior partner at a CPA firm.
I also know quite a few loser burnouts. Most of the users I know are weekend warriors and only after the kids go to bed.
I also know quite a few loser burnouts. Most of the users I know are weekend warriors and only after the kids go to bed.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:01 pm to The Spleen
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know several successful, high functioning pot heads
No you don't. Name them!
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:01 pm to Bonkers119
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One of my best friends uses Medical Marijuana to help with his Crohn's, and he says it's the best thing to ever happen to him.
I’ve had Crohn’s since I was 12 (44 now). It does definitely help with the discomforts that come with Crohn’s. A lot of (not all) Crohn’s patients like me associate food with pain so it helps us eat too. Food is good, high food is really good!
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:01 pm to Jim Rockford
If used recreationally and not every day I do believe weed is 100% harmless.
When used daily especially all day every day, in my experience, it can make you dumb, lazy, antisocial, and depressed.
Weed is being overpromoted for therapeutic purposes. It is primarily an intoxicant.
Regardless imo it should be legal. It is definitely less harmful than alcohol.
When used daily especially all day every day, in my experience, it can make you dumb, lazy, antisocial, and depressed.
Weed is being overpromoted for therapeutic purposes. It is primarily an intoxicant.
Regardless imo it should be legal. It is definitely less harmful than alcohol.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 2:02 pm to The Spleen
quote:It could also be that high-functioning pot heads tend to be more discrete about their use. Which is why I side-eye comments like "all the pot heads I know are frick ups". If we're casual acquaintances, and I know about your drinking habits, chances are, you're fricking up.
Maybe it’s the circles I run in(it is) but I know several successful, high functioning pot heads. One of my best friends is a managing partner is fairly large attorney’s office. Another is a senior partner at a CPA firm.
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