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re: Medical expense not covered by Medicare will be 25,000 bucks this week

Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2545 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:40 pm to
Can't you purchase a supplemental policy like Humana? I believe its relatively cheap.

I only am aware of this as my budget limited grandmother had it and loved it. She never complained about medical expenses.

Maybe its different now.

Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4654 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:44 pm to
Ok, thanks for explaining. I’ve just read you are taxed again when combined and I always wondered why if taxes are withheld on that amount at time of withdrawal. Thanks for clarifying re the portion, I did not know that. Not planning on withdrawing anytime soon, thankfully.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3880 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:51 pm to
Supplements are available and bought along with Medicare … with both you get pretty good coverage..probably what your family member had.

They have an option called advantage which is basically taking the money you pay the govt for Medicare and putting you into a ppo for medical dental vision..

It cost less than the combined Medicare and supplemental ( actually can be no cost but they take your Medicare payment check)

It is what is causing serious problems now.. people trying to sue companies.. companies losing money etc..it is what they say it is.. and they make money by managing your health ( manage it at lowest cost so they can be profitable)..

A complicated topic..

Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
4547 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:58 pm to
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medicare advantage


My 78 year old brother is learning the medicare advantage is a POS lesson now. He recently had hip replacement surgery and starting to see high medical bills that he was not aware would be coming his way. To add insult to injury, they have denied damn near all his post op needs....in home PT, wound care, etc...etc.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79418 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:02 pm to
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I’m told it’s better to get straight from the gov and is better .


Usually is better. Don't have to worry about prior auth (other than a few items such as Group II mattresses), most providers are in network, and they won't try to label procedures"experimental" even though Medicare pays for them and Advantage plans are supposed to follow the same rules.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6848 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:10 pm to
The joys of figuring this stuff out does not appeal to me.
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
4547 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:14 pm to
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The joys of figuring this stuff out does not appeal to me.


Word of advice. Be careful who you listen to when it comes to "advice" about medicare supplemental plans.... especially BIL's and well meaning friends.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3880 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:27 pm to
I will give you a suggestion..
When going on chose Medicare traditional with a supplement .. plan g and a pharmacy plan .D

Spend the next year figuring things out.. you can change back and forth each year….

However if you sign up for Medicare advantage.. the first time.. which is when ( 6 months after 65 I believe)…. They can NOT factor in pre existing conditions and or deny coverage…

If you were on advantage right into retirement and come down with a heart condition.. MS etc during that year and wanted to switch from Medicare advantage ((ppo concept).. to Medicare with a Medicare supplement like plan G.. ( better coverage. Follow up care etc like op said about his brother) you are past the six mont time limit set by government and they can now look at existing condition like MS and deny or include in premium calculations..

Many people will offer to help you at no cost.. but many do get kickbacks from companies they get you to sign up with..

Do your research.. Google will help.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4528 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:37 pm to
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Usually is better. Don't have to worry about prior auth (other than a few items such as Group II mattresses), most providers are in network, and they won't try to label procedures"experimental" even though Medicare pays for them and Advantage plans are supposed to follow the same rules.


Good luck with underwriting if you ever try to switch from MA back to Medicare.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6848 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:40 pm to
Good advice, thanks.
Posted by dukeg7213
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2023
6138 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:46 pm to
I wish everyone was educated on getting Medicare a/b with a supplement. A lot better than a Medicare disadvantage plan

Humana Medicare needs to be exiled from earth. They are literal scum
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
1280 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:02 am to
Sorry for your issues, really. But the worst thing politicians ever did was convince every person that health insurance was a right. It sent prices to where they are today. Once they figured out they could play politics with health insurance, it was game over. The gumment should get out of the medical business. If there was no health insurance, you could go to your doctor for $25 and most everything would be affordable. The only thing that should be offered is an “in case shite” policy that covers major things. Then you die.
Posted by swampgrizzly
Member since May 2014
135 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:30 am to
Acknowledging that each individual's cataract conditions are likely not to be identical, the choice of implanting insurance covered lenses vs. premium lenses deserves carefull consideration.

For example my brother chose the expensive premium lenses vs. the no patient cost ones Medicare would cover 8 years ago. He had improved vision, but was having some difficulty seeing some things as well as I did with my "progressive lenses eye glasses" before I had cataract surgery. 6 years ago, when I agreed to have cataract surgery, I chose to just use the implant lenses that would be covered fully by Medicare due to my brother's experience. The technology of lenses available has been improving overtime and I have had 20/20 vision using the Medicare covered lenses with no need for glasses at all! I suspect the implant lenses technology has continued to improve over time and that includes those covered by employer insurance and also via Medicare coverage.

I suspect that the skill of one's ophthalmologist doing the surgery can affect the best lense options chosen to correct one's eye conditions as well as their skill as a eye surgeon in performing the procedure.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12227 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:47 am to
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Medicare advantage has serious limitations .. which is why the cost is so low.

Do serious due diligence when determining which one you choose and especially which one you chose during the first enrollment when pre conditions can not be factored into plans and cost..

I could give you much more serious examples than the ones you encountered that friends encountered.
My parents used some kind of private Medicare advisor to help them figure all this out when they first enrolled. They (or at least my dad) are very financially sophisticated and well funded for retirement, but even he thought it was money well spent.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 12:51 am
Posted by Disco Ball
Denham Springs
Member since May 2025
837 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:48 am to
Thanks for your post. Unfortunately, the problems you're experiencing are due your not having Medicare coverage despite what your Medicare Advantage plan would like you to believe.
The primary health insurance portion of Medicare is known as Medicare Parts A & B which began in 1966 and Part D which covers prescription drugs and began in 2006. You've been paying in to the Medicare system for Parts A & B for many, many years and when you were eligible for Part B, usually at age 65 you began paying an additional Medicare Part B premium that will contunue for life. Sadly, at some point you elected to disenroll yourself from the very comprehensive and quality coverage under A & B and enroll in a HMO- Health Maintanence Organization. All Medicare Advantage plans are HMO's and have nothing to do with the coverage under real Medicare despite having "Medicare" in the name. I've owned a health insurace agency since these plans began and in the begining for a small segment of the population they were a good fit.
That's not the case today. If you simply stay with the Medicare A & B coverage otherwise known as being "Medicare Primary" and purchase a Medicare Supplement policy the max out of pocket for 2025 is $257. I've reviewed thouands of clients Medicare explanations of benefit statements of the last 35 years and as long as they are Medicare A & B primary I've never seen any treatments declined or not allowed by Medicare. Ever since the house and the Senate voted in 2012 to defund Medicare Advantage to fund Obamacare the MA plans have been a terrible and very expensive choice. It's not as difficult as you may believe to switch back to real Medicare
Posted by ManWithNoNsme
Member since Feb 2022
924 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:51 am to
Thanks for the info. Great thread! I have been retired a couple of months and will get on Medicare in October. Currently have no health insurance. I have been using GoodRX for my blood pressure and cholesterol meds. So far it’s not been too expensive. Saved me $100 on one prescription.

My boss’ GP told him to not get Medicare Advantage. He said they were bad about denying tests and treatments. I have no idea if this true.
Posted by AncientTiger
Mississippi- Louisiana - Destin
Member since Sep 2016
1950 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:02 am to
quote:

Mississippi’s House Bill 1, signed into law in March 2025, phases out the state income tax by reducing it from 4% to 3% by 2030, with further cuts based on revenue growth, potentially eliminating it by 2040. It also cuts the grocery tax from 7% to 5% starting July 1, 2025, and raises the gas tax by 9 cents per gallon by 2027 to offset revenue losses.


Currently, Mississippi is attracting many retirees. No State income tax on retirement plans. Pensions, 401K’s, etc.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56679 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:49 am to
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It’s not traditional Medicare. It’s an advantage plan. And they are garbage. Lure you in with perks and discounts but are hot garbage when you need to find a provider or get something covered.

Please talk your loved ones into a traditional plan with Part B coverage for comprehensive healthcare coverage.


Original medicare has no vision or dental coverage. This has nothing to do with medicare advantage.

The issue here is, he needs things done NOT covered by Medicare at all.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56679 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 3:54 am to
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Good luck with underwriting if you ever try to switch from MA back to Medicare.


Can be done annually without issue during the enrollment period
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13528 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:02 am to
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medicare advantage

is actually Medicare Disadvantage.
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