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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:56 pm to Breesus
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:56 pm to Breesus
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they can hold him at least 24 hours
As soon as they are done with interviewing him and if they don't have enough probable cause to make an arrest, investigators will release. Doesn't mean he is out of the water yet, just means at this time they don't have enough probable cause to justify an arrest.
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:58 pm to PointsInCase
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He will probably be exonerated and that will be the right call given the burden of proof the state needs to have in order to convict. I will not protest because it's better to let a guilty man free than to lock up an innocent man. However, I will hold firm to the view that Gasser is likely a huge a-hole.
All of this
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:34 pm to Rouge
Listening g to the audio I'll go out on a limb and say those that were nearby didn't. Sound like they were very astute, nor very able to communicate well.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:37 pm to TejasPete
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Note to self - toss casings back into car if I ever shoot anyone.
I guarantee you the shooter didn't toss the brass back in his car. Too many witnesses.
Plus, the investigation would have found out he did it. Many witnesses.
Why the 5 negs? Anyone want to explain why?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:47 pm to TejasPete
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In Louisiana and on this board this is clear cut self defense since the victim is black.
No agenda here.
I was generally thinking the dude was in the wrong initially, but it seems evidence may not bear that out. Your bias will prevent you from seeing anything objectively.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:48 pm to bayouman
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Gasser didn't brake
He probably did brake, that's usually what starts road rage incidents. People who get over and brake rather than speed up into the other lane.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:54 pm to Kcrad
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I guarantee you the shooter didn't toss the brass back in his car. Too many witnesses.
Plus, the investigation would have found out he did it. Many witnesses.
The way the sheriff sounded in the presser, I'm not really sure if they have many witnesses at all. They were asking for witnesses to come forward.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:55 pm to tiggah1981
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Fearing for his life and fear of getting his arse whooped are two different things...how can one fear for their life if the other guy hasn't brandished any type of weapon
Good point. No one has ever killed someone without a weapon.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I was generally thinking the dude was in the wrong initially, but it seems evidence may not bear that out.
I think that is an important distinction. The burden of proof is on the state if they file charges, so they're trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed a crime. Gasser doesn't have to prove his innocence, and the evidence may ultimately be inconclusive as to what exactly went down, but unless it explicitly implicates Gasser in a crime, he's going to walk.
Our justice system is designed to keep innocent people out of prison, not to catch all guilty people, and for that we should all be thankful.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:03 pm to Dire Wolf
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He will probably be exonerated and that will be the right call given the burden of proof the state needs to have in order to convict. I will not protest because it's better to let a guilty man free than to lock up an innocent man. However, I will hold firm to the view that Gasser is likely a huge a-hole.
Really, Gasser's a-hole quotient is up in the air. Whereas, JK's a-hole quotient it pretty high.
He should've let things slide.
I wonder if seeing a white man giving him a bad time set JM off the deep end?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:04 pm to slackster
I'm surprised no one has said something like, "why didn't he just shoot him in the leg" "why didn't he fire a warning shot" "why didn't he just taze him" " why did he have to kill him"?????
Is that the same shite we hear after a cop shoots and kills a TPOS disobeying a police officers orders?
Is that the same shite we hear after a cop shoots and kills a TPOS disobeying a police officers orders?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:08 pm to Kcrad
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I wonder if seeing a white man giving him a bad time set JM off the deep end?
Maybe, but it probably wasn't nearly as big a deal to JM as seeing a black man get out and come to his vehicle was to Gasser.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:11 pm to tgrbaitn08
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I'm surprised no one has said something like, "why didn't he just shoot him in the leg" "why didn't he fire a warning shot" "why didn't he just taze him" " why did he have to kill him"?????
Is that the same shite we hear after a cop shoots and kills a TPOS disobeying a police officers orders?
Someone mentioned earlier, and I tend to agree, that brandishing the weapon alone could have been enough to scare off JM. If he's trying to get into your car and you pull out a weapon, I doubt he'll continue. The law allows you to shoot him just for trying to come into the vehicle, but it is reasonable to believe you could have kept him out by just brandishing the weapon.
If JM was in the car and struggling with him, then all bets are off.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:21 pm to tiggah1981
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Fearing for his life and fear of getting his arse whooped are two different things..
Do yourself a big favor and Google how many people have been killed getting punched and kicked compared to those killed with any type of rifle. Then do all of us a favor and start swinging on random strangers in the street until one of them decides your life isn't worth taking a beating for.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:34 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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Good point. No one has ever killed someone without a weapon.
In this case we would never know the answer since Gasser was to chicken shite to drop the gloves and decided to kill someone using a weapon
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:37 pm to tgrbaitn08
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I hope to god I never have to fire my gun at another human being. However, I would suggest you never try to enter my vehicle or house unwelcomed or unannounced Pete.
America needs more heroes like you.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:37 pm to Clames
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Do yourself a big favor and Google how many people have been killed getting punched and kicked compared to those killed with any type of rifle.
How about you tell me...I watch the news alot and I might count the number of times in both my hands where I heard of story of someone dying because of kicks and punches...Gasser poked the wrong bull and bitched out by killing him
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:40 pm to Clames
This is the 2nd time I have read this thread, the first time I read about 10 pages and posted when it was 50 something pages long. At that time I was just asking for a summary and confirmed if what I assumed, based on reading the part of the thread that I did. But since then it seems like there have been more information released.
My first question is, the witness that said she saw the shooter standing over JM saying "I told you don't frick with me" is still not creditable right?
Is the million dollar question still "what made the shooter feel threatened enough to shoot"?
And I did read something that said the shooter had a prior arrest of road rage for a situation that happened at the same location. Is that accurate and if so, that can only change perception right? In other words, it can not be used in this case.
My first question is, the witness that said she saw the shooter standing over JM saying "I told you don't frick with me" is still not creditable right?
Is the million dollar question still "what made the shooter feel threatened enough to shoot"?
And I did read something that said the shooter had a prior arrest of road rage for a situation that happened at the same location. Is that accurate and if so, that can only change perception right? In other words, it can not be used in this case.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:44 pm to bayouman
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park illegally
i love this latest borderline irrelevant talking point. Talk about something that will have zero impact in a trial.
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:47 pm to Kcrad
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Really, Gasser's a-hole quotient is up in the air.
well let's see, this is the second time he's been in a violent road rage incident. Meanwhile McKnight had no criminal record. Interesting double standard.
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I wonder if seeing a white man giving him a bad time set JM off the deep end?
look it's the race card again!
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