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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:34 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:34 pm to tgrbaitn08
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frick no. I would never brandish my gun unless I plan on using it. That a rule I made for myself when I decided to start carrying one
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I will pull out my gun. It's hard to say what happens after that. I would hope I don't have to kill the man
In politics that is called flip flopping.
Look, I have done gun safety. But to be honest, brandishing saves lives. Police brandish before shooting to let you know they are ready to shoot.
You brandish and they back down and you don't have to have blood on your hands. Even a legit shoot can haunt you if you are not a schizo. I have friends that went to the desert who are messed up from killing really bad guys. I haven't taken a life, but it messes with you for sure.
Of course if you pull a gun you are ready to use it, but you don't have to. I do not like how gun safety courses teach you to only pull your gun and fire, never just point.
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:37 pm to bencoleman
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Do you honestly think that JM knew any of that we he got out of his vehicle? I also feel for the sheriff's Dept here because they all knew Joe and his family. It's just a tragic situation all around.
Of course not. No one in the thread has defended JM's actions. Point me to the post if I am wrong.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:37 pm to tgrbaitn08
First, I think JMc acted stupidly. It got him killed
However, after learning this is the 2nd reported incident at this location by Gasser, I'm curious if anyone else thinks this guy baits people into effing with him? Then races into JP where he suddenly 'defends' himself?
Convenient that he made it just out of Orleans, when both of his victims happen to catch up with him?
However, after learning this is the 2nd reported incident at this location by Gasser, I'm curious if anyone else thinks this guy baits people into effing with him? Then races into JP where he suddenly 'defends' himself?
Convenient that he made it just out of Orleans, when both of his victims happen to catch up with him?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:38 pm to PointsInCase
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Your position assumes Gasser was attempting to defend himself before being provoked by McKnight, which may or may not be the case.
Brah can you read??? I've been saying all day that I believe Gasser did something to provoke JM and piss him off and send him in enough of a rage that made him follow Gasser and exit his vehicle and approach Gassers.
I've said numerous times that Gasser more than likely started this road rage by provoking JM. I don't think Gasser is some sort of angle.
They both fricked up
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:39 pm to Napoleon
Very good post. Dead on
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:40 pm to tgrbaitn08
Damn dude were you accosted in the past that lead to feeling the need to keep your weapon in your lap? Or is it the Boy Scout motto of always being prepared/better safe than sorry? I lived and grew up in the hood you keep you're gun on your lap for 26 years and never felt that need? I guess when your in it you don't realize the danger. Been living in Terrytown for 11 years now and it's night and day from New Orleans.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:41 pm to Napoleon
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In politics that is called flip flopping.
Look, I have done gun safety. But to be honest, brandishing saves lives. Police brandish before shooting to let you know they are ready to shoot.
You brandish and they back down and you don't have to have blood on your hands. Even a legit shoot can haunt you if you are not a schizo. I have friends that went to the desert who are messed up from killing really bad guys. I haven't taken a life, but it messes with you for sure.
Of course if you pull a gun you are ready to use it, but you don't have to. I do not like how gun safety courses teach you to only pull your gun and fire, never just point.
Agreed. Brandishing your gun should imply you are ready to use deadly force, not that you necessarily will use deadly force. Drawing a weapon signifies intent to use force if the situation escalates such that it is necessary and justified.
A SWAT team brandishing weaponry isn't an implication that force will be used, just that it is likely to be justifiable if it were to be used.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:46 pm to rsylve
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Damn dude were you accosted in the past that lead to feeling the need to keep your weapon in your lap? Or is it the Boy Scout motto of always being prepared/better safe than sorry? I lived and grew up in the hood you keep you're gun on your lap for 26 years and never felt that need? I guess when your in it you don't realize the danger. Been living in Terrytown for 11 years now and it's night and day from New Orleans.
I'm not sure if you understand. I said I have placed my gun on my lap while while through certain neighborhoods. I don't ride around with my gun on my lap.
I've lived in Nola for 15 years, I've been all over the city. Of course I'm going to keep my guard up. People that don't are the ones that become statistics
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:49 pm to tgrbaitn08
I understand. Was just wondering if anything in the past lead you to feeling that afraid. It's not a criticism nor do I blame you for feeling that way. People have different life experiences.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
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I'm not sure if you understand. I said I have placed my gun on my lap while while through certain neighborhoods. I don't ride around with my gun on my lap.
I've lived in Nola for 15 years, I've been all over the city. Of course I'm going to keep my guard up. People that don't are the ones that become statistics
Just curious, but where and when are you driving where you have the gun in your lap? MLK at 3am?
I see skinny hipster chicks cruising on their bikes in 7th Ward and St. Roch at night by themselves, and I don't think they have guns.
Again, I'm not judging. There's nothing wrong with being prepared for the worst. Being safe is important. NOLA isn't all that safe. I just hope you don't feel on edge all the time, for the sake of your health.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:58 pm to rsylve
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I understand. Was just wondering if anything in the past lead you to feeling that afraid. It's not a criticism nor do I blame you for feeling that way. People have different life experiences.
Nothing personally to me but like I said I've lived in Nola for 15 years. I'm very aware of my surroundings. I'm not going to let my guard down and my head stays on a swivel, my wife and kids need me. I refuse to let someone catch me off guard and end my life.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:59 pm to PointsInCase
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I see skinny hipster chicks cruising on their bikes in 7th Ward and St. Roch at night by themselves, and I don't think they have guns.
Because skinny jean hipster chicks on $80 bikes don't have as much to lose as I do.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:01 am to PointsInCase
That's basically what I was trying to get at? Figured something happened to him or maybe someone he knows. Probably the shite we see on TV every day. Never any good news. I must admit that video of the guy trying to kill that Tulane student and it jamming is fricking haunting and some scary shite. I don't think I have the heart anymore to intervene in situations like that. I'd follow in my car and be on the phone with 911.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:04 am to tgrbaitn08
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Because skinny jean hipster chicks on $80 bikes don't have as much to lose as I do.
Very good point.
"When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose"
-Bob Dylan
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 12:05 am
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:06 am to tgrbaitn08
If you have something to lose why would you go around provoking people to get in a response and start and conflict?
That's what this Gasser guy you're defending is apparently doing.
To me it seems he wants to find a reason kill someone. I know people like him (and most likely you) in real life. You justify situations like this because you relate to them. The desire to find a reason to kill your fellow man smh... it's scary that you feel this isn't the last resort but ine of your first.
You're the types that have people wanting to take guns from me!
That's what this Gasser guy you're defending is apparently doing.
To me it seems he wants to find a reason kill someone. I know people like him (and most likely you) in real life. You justify situations like this because you relate to them. The desire to find a reason to kill your fellow man smh... it's scary that you feel this isn't the last resort but ine of your first.
You're the types that have people wanting to take guns from me!
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 12:07 am
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:07 am to rsylve
The recent one in Baton Rouge was shocking as well. That teen went to help a woman shot on the street and then got ran over twice and shot twice for trying to help.
Sad. There are monsters out there, that's for sure. A normal human doesn't do shite like that. Sadly most of the worst ones have been in the system and made worse in jail. Then come out worse than before.
Sad. There are monsters out there, that's for sure. A normal human doesn't do shite like that. Sadly most of the worst ones have been in the system and made worse in jail. Then come out worse than before.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:13 am to YStar
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If you have something to lose why would you go around provoking people to get in a response and start and conflict?
I'm not.
what gives you the impression that I am? quote:
That's what this Gasser guy you're defending is apparently doing.
I'm not defending anyone.
Have you even read any of this thread whatsoever?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:15 am to YStar
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To me it seems he wants to find a reason kill someone. I know people like him (and most likely you) in real life. You justify situations like this because you relate to them. The desire to find a reason to kill your fellow man smh... it's scary that you feel this isn't the last resort but ine of your first.
You're the types that have people wanting to take guns from me!
What on gods green earth are you talking about?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:17 am to PointsInCase
I've learned to walk tall and nobody really fricks with you. Don't stare people down but look them in the eye. I've been on foot at night multiple times in east Nola and all throughout the 7th and 9th
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:31 am to cubsfan5150
Where is Tangerine? I was the one one that mentioned Mcknight being the aggressor and was called the moron. frick LSUTANGERINE.
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