re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside

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I totally agree it was needless and tragic no matter who started the situation.

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100% agree.

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Not to pull a gun I hate to break it you that's the honest truth.

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I agree, now if he smashed the window and tries to pull me out, then sure. If he is just banging on the glass, I would probably turn facebook live on and get some laughs.

It's hard to break a window with hands.

Opinions may not mean anything in the court of law, but this is a discussion board and people are more than free to discuss their opinions. We don't have all the facts yet.

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Again your opinion doesn't mean shite in this cas as long as Gasser acted within the confines of the law. In which as it appears right now he did but we will sit and wait for all the facts to come out and if he's charged then we will wait to see what a jury thinks if there is any reasonable doubt.

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We are not arguing the law here, brah. We are saying we would have tried to prevent the situation from escalating to the point where deadly force was needed.

C'mon, man.

To each his own. But unless you got a gun or some type of weapon it wouldn't even cross my head to shoot someone. This isn't a deer or a duck buddy stop acting scared of every damn thing.

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Right. Maybe JM should have listened to you and he'd still be alive. You're a day late and a dollar short with your advice

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I'm not defending JM. I just have the decency not to berate a dead man, unlike some of the heathens in this thread.

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In your opinion in general is deadly force last resort to you? Do you brandish your weapon to avoid escalation? Give your opinion as if you were in the guy's shoes. You're in a heated argument with someone and they jump out the car and starts toward your car. Do you flee? Pull your weapon? Roll up the wind

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frick no. I would never brandish my gun unless I plan on using it. That a rule I made for myself when I decided to start carrying one in my truck. I hope to god I never have to pull it out much less use it. Now I have put it on my lap when driving through certain hoods, or in my pocket while filling up at a gas station in certain places, but I've never felt threatened enough to have to pull it on someone.

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y's shoes. You're in a heated argument with someone and they jump out the car and starts toward your car. Do you flee? Pull your weapon? Roll up the window?

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Gasser was boxed in. If I were boxed in at a red light and some guy that had been following me for 5 miles pulls up on the side of me in a non driving lane and exits his vehicle and approaches my vehicle and is mad and irate and trying to enter my vehicle, I will pull out my gun. It's hard to say what happens after that. I would hope I don't have to kill the man but If that's what I have to do in order to save my own life then I'm gong to fire my weapon.

Thank you. Facts are facts which you can't argue.

What the consensus here on "fearing for your life"? It can be different for everyone. How do you even prove or disprove this? What's "reasonable"? The law leaves so much up for interpretation. I'd imagine it's hard as hell to prosecute cases like this. Do we need to get rid of or amend stand your ground laws? Other than shooting someone fleeing how can you prove someone didn't feel they're in danger? Every shooting that occurs in an argument it seems anyone can claim justifiable homicide.

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Gasser was boxed in. If I were boxed in at a red light and some guy that had been following me for 5 miles pulls up on the side of me in a non driving lane and exits his vehicle and approaches my vehicle and is mad and irate and trying to enter my vehicle, I will pull out my gun. It's hard to say what happens after that. I would hope I don't have to kill the man but If that's what I have to do in order to save my own life then I'm gong to fire my weapon.

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That's understandable. But it is not clear whether McKnight was forcing entry into the car or not. The windows are down in the picture and there is no damage. And it's also not clear who followed who. Gasser's history suggests he may not have been innocent in inciting the rage. Your position assumes Gasser was attempting to defend himself before being provoked by McKnight, which may or may not be the case.