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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:19 am to SuperSaint
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:19 am to SuperSaint
It's just amazing how people can jump to a conclusion without having any of the actual facts about what happened.
And then I realize society is mostly made up of ignorant mouth breathers and it all makes sense
And then I realize society is mostly made up of ignorant mouth breathers and it all makes sense
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:19 am to SuperSaint
well what do you do when joe was out of his car? We cant assume he wasn't an aggressor can we? You're telling me, in new orleans, where crime is rampant, that a scrawny 150 lb, 54 year old white man got out of his car to confront a young black man? You really believe that? Then ronald gasser has the biggest set of balls on the freaking planet. Im 6'7 and im not getting out of a car to confront any young male first in this age where ever person is packing heat but of course ronald gasser was that dude who was this tiny little clint eastwood with balls of steel hellbent on confronting joe mcknight.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:20 am to Mr. Hangover
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What is the precedence in a situation like this?? Everyone on my facebook is saying the typical if he was black he'd still be in jail yada yada yada... Common sense tells you that the guy should still be behind bars but what is the actual legal proceedings for something like this? Is it completely out of the norm for a guy to be released under these circumstances? ETA: I'm not picking sides, I just want to know the legal procedure for this because my facebook is on fire right now
Well FWIW, Cardell Hayes was arrested and never left prison for the Will Smith shooting. He was charged with 2nd degree murder and indicted by a grand jury 17 or so days later.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:22 am to Nado Jenkins83
Maybe the gun was Mcknights??
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:23 am to Meauxjeaux
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The first thing to find out here is WHERE was Gasser when he shot McKnight? Where was McKnight when he got shot?
THIS NEXT PART IS 100% SPECULATION: (posted as an example of how Gasser gets released so quickly)
I have no idea what actually happened, but if McKnight got out of his car and Gasser remained in his car and KcKnight was doing anything that would be construed as trying to get into Gasser's car when Gasser shot him, Gasser will walk.
McKnights body is laying on the ground behind Glassers car
Wittiness say that Glasser stood over JM and fired the 3rd shot
Not sure where Glasser was when he fired the 1st shots
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:24 am to dabigfella
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well what do you do when joe was out of his car? We cant assume he wasn't an aggressor can we? You're telling me, in new orleans, where crime is rampant, that a scrawny 150 lb, 54 year old white man got out of his car to confront a young black man? You really believe that?
hey guys,Jesse Jackson posts here!
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:24 am to Scoop
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I think what people are saying is that it would be very strange for a 50 year old, apparently somewhat successful business man to shoot someone with no good reason in cold blood in broad daylight. It doesn't add up and suggests there is more to the story.
I would hope that there are holes in the story or else he has no business being released. That being said, I find it plausible that someone carrying a weapon may have been overly confident in his legal right to use deadly force. We'll find out whether he was right as the facts come out.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:24 am to dabigfella
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What is your highest level of education completed?
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I have an MBA from LSU
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:24 am to Nado Jenkins83
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It is extremely well known that Cardelle Hayes got out of his vehicle and exchanged words with Smith.
maybe smith confronted him first.
trial starts this month. but people have seen it already
Irrelevant to what I was replying to. The post I replied to tried to make the case Gasser and Hayes incidents were the same.
We don't know that. We DO know that Hayes exited his vehicle. We have no idea where Gasser was.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:25 am to Vlad
The value of that degree just plummeted by association with him.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 11:28 am
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:25 am to dabigfella
Yes I'll assume that. Having a gun makes some people feel like superman.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:27 am to dabigfella
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You're telling me, in new orleans, where crime is rampant, that a scrawny 150 lb, 54 year old white man got out of his car to confront a young black man
Um. Yes. I've seen that happen before
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:27 am to slackster
There are conflicting reports. One says JM was apologizing and was shot. Another said someone was being pulled out of a car. Best to look at the actual evidence before forming an opinion. That's why I love our country. The mob can't convict someone. There needs to be factual proof of a crime.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:27 am to slackster
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I would hope that there are holes in the story or else he has no business being released. That being said, I find it plausible that someone carrying a weapon may have been overly confident in his legal right to use deadly force. We'll find out whether he was right as the facts come out.
do you think it's all at possible JM brandished a gun while they were driving down the road, and Glasser assumed when JM got out of his car JM had the gun in his hand which we know that he didnt, but we dont know if there was a gun in JM's car
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:28 am to AUCE05
yes id love more on how a 150 lb man pulled this nfl running back out of a car, that sounds like the most plausible story.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:29 am to Meauxjeaux
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We don't know that. We DO know that Hayes exited his vehicle. We have no idea where Gasser was.
gotcha. Sorry if I misunderstood you.
i just love it how that case hasn't gone to trial yet people are soo sure that smith was 100% innocent. he was wasted drunk and some witnesses say he was the aggressor.
this case may be even more complicated but the fact that Gasser wasn't detained longer seem weird to me
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:29 am to dabigfella
Maybe the NFL Player was pulling him out of the car? Don't know.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 11:30 am
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:30 am to tgrbaitn08
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McKnights body is laying on the ground behind Glassers car
Wittiness say that Glasser stood over JM and fired the 3rd shot
Not sure where Glasser was when he fired the 1st shots
Hopefully we'll know more with these press conferences.
But even then, the scene you describe above could still be the result of
A) McKnight attempting to enter Gassers vehicle
B) Gasser shoots McKnight
C) McKnight stumbles behind the car and falls to the ground dead or dying
D) Gasser exits the vehicle and stands over McKnight
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E) While they told the press Gasser fired a shot into McKnights body on the ground, no-one has told the police that.
Again, it's all speculation, but PLAUSIBLE.
Can't we just wait for the info to come out?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:30 am to dabigfella
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This guy probably feared for his life otherwise he wouldn't have done it.
At a redlight? In your vehicle? From and unarmed person?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:31 am to AUCE05
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There are conflicting reports. One says JM was apologizing and was shot. Another said someone was being pulled out of a car. Best to look at the actual evidence before forming an opinion. That's why I love our country. The mob can't convict someone. There needs to be factual proof of a crime.
sounds like McKnight pulled him out of the car then started apologizing once he realized the guy was armed? If so that still isn't self defense...it's murder.
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