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re: McKinney policeman suspended after pulling gun on teens, etc....

Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:53 pm to
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Do people really just lack basic logic? Christ


Just because you saw some invite on twitter doesn't mean shite.

I'd also enjoy seeing the reaction of the people spouting they were in public streets nonsense if about 50 kids just showed up in front of their home, played loud music, and were potentially drinking and smoking pot. But of couse the cops can't do shite because they're in a public street.



I get invited to a pool party. I attend.
Cops show up. Person who invited me was unauthorized to do so.
Am I going to get arrested for trespassing?

frick no. Use some common sense. If the cop would have used a tiny bit of it he'd probably still have a job. Thankfully, Reno 911 is off the streets.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 7:56 pm
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66524 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 8:02 pm to
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Cops show up. Person who invited me was unauthorized to do so. Am I going to get arrested for trespassing?


If you fail to leave after being told by officers and the rent a cop you likely will be considered trespassing.

Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37754 posts
Posted on 6/10/15 at 8:13 pm to
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Am I going to get arrested for trespassing?
If the cops tell you to leave and you don't, yes.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:22 am to
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If the cops tell you to leave and you don't, yes.


Am I not allowed on a public street? That's asinine.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37694 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 5:48 am to
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quote: Cops show up. Person who invited me was unauthorized to do so. Am I going to get arrested for trespassing? If you fail to leave after being told by officers and the rent a cop you likely will be considered trespassing.

Tresspassing on what? A public street? That is where she was told to leave. Those police had not even made it to the pool yet.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 6:32 am
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19797 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 6:36 am to
Not sure why everyone keeps harping on this happening "on a public street." There is a video, you might have seen it along with a gazillion other people, that clearly shows they were on the grass inside the sidewalk near the pool fence. We can get into semantics on public right of way, servitudes and such but unless McKinney Texas hasn't joined us in the first world with paved roadways that grass wasn't a street.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 6:38 am
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12445 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 6:37 am to
This can't be asked to leave the street argument has to be a troll at this point.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8211 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 6:49 am to
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This can't be asked to leave the street argument has to be a troll at this point.


I figured he's either naïve, stupid or being a troll.
Posted by augrad00
Member since Nov 2010
1354 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 7:36 am to
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You need to do a little research. Because you don't even know half of the story. Stop letting the media force feed everything down your throat.


I haven't followed the media coverage either which is why I'm asking what crime was committed. This story isn't worth devoting my time in research. I'm just curious. From what little I've read in this thread, all I gather is some residents of this neighborhood, who were invited to the party, were annoyed by the party.
Posted by augrad00
Member since Nov 2010
1354 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 7:38 am to
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1. mother and daughter 'promoted' this party not just for the neighborhood residents, but invited the general public. 2. they did not reserve to pool/park for the party thus other residents were also using the facilities. 3. the mother and daughter attempted to charge admission fees to the party. 4. the DJ that they hired tweeted out the location for the party and invited the general public to the private neighborhood pool. People mostly teen started arriving and began to harass the residents using the pool. 5. the residents called the police, and the smallest police officer in Texas showed up.... downhill from there.


Are these against the law?
Posted by augrad00
Member since Nov 2010
1354 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 7:41 am to
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Blacks are encouraged to be defiant of authority and police specifically. We saw it in Missouri. We saw it in Baltimore. The aftermath is only reinforcing this absurd perspective.


But this doesn't sound like a racist comment.

I'm black. Did I miss the meeting where we were told to defy authority and police?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12445 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 7:46 am to
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Are these against the law?


show up with a DJ and 100 kids unnannounced pretty much anywhere and then dont leave when asked.... see how quickly you end up with trespassing, disturbing the peace, etc.... and if you resist the officer - that too.

Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56002 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 7:52 am to
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he would have been fine had he not flipped his shite and tossed that girl to the ground by her neck.

that level of force really wasn't needed.


I agree but ! -he did give her 3 warnings

Apparently she thought it was optional to leave.

I have no tolerance for illegal parties on private property

America is stupid
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31269 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 7:59 am to
quote:

quote: 1. mother and daughter 'promoted' this party not just for the neighborhood residents, but invited the general public. 2. they did not reserve to pool/park for the party thus other residents were also using the facilities. 3. the mother and daughter attempted to charge admission fees to the party. 4. the DJ that they hired tweeted out the location for the party and invited the general public to the private neighborhood pool. People mostly teen started arriving and began to harass the residents using the pool. 5. the residents called the police, and the smallest police officer in Texas showed up.... downhill from there. Are these against the law?

At a private neighborhood pool? Yes. Most have rules about guests. Most charge the members a fee to bring guests. There are occupancy issues with the number of people allowed, and depending on the insurance, extra supervisors and/or lifeguards would be required for the additional patrons.

So no, you can't just show up to the country club and hire a DJ and invite everyone in the city to your pool party.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50362 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:03 am to
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This can't be asked to leave the street argument has to be a troll at this point.


It's pretty clear they don't understand loitering laws. They seem to think people can just hang out in the middle of the street just because it's "public".
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31269 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:10 am to
Downvoting my post doesn't make it any less true.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37754 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 7:31 pm to
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Am I not allowed on a public street? That's asinine.
I'm talking about the pool. I thought that's what you were talking about when you asked about the invitations.

As far as the street goes, yes and no.

Again, I'm not saying that the angry cop handled that situation properly by any means. But the kids that were not suppose to be there were also in the wrong. It's not a public pool. Also, loitering and being a disruption in the neighborhood is a crime. If the cops tell you to disperse in that situation, you have to. They can also arrest. Not that they would, but they can. It's not necessarily how every situation should be handled, but it's an option.

Is that the way this situation should have been handled, I don't think so. But the kids who were asked to leave should have done so and should not be told that they did nothing wrong.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 8:23 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89738 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:11 pm to
Remaining after forbidden is considered a crime even if you are on a public street
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17895 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:34 pm to
I guess no one here has seen the Carlotta Street (Baton Rouge) block party get broken up by cops on Halloween...Public street, shite gets outta control, cops force people to go home, and if you choose not to obey, so sorry.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37754 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:57 pm to
Exactly. If a situation is getting out of hand, the police are well within their right to tell people to disperse and go home, especially minors with no supervision.

Now if you want to say that the angry cop was too confrontational and made the situation worse, fine. Should he had thrown the 15 year old girl to the ground and sat on her? No. Not IMO. Should he had pulled his gun? No. Not IMO. Maybe his taser. But you can't say that the kids who were there without permission and/or causing a public disturbance were not in the wrong.
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