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Posted on 10/11/19 at 12:58 pm to Golfer
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Up until recently no one even took issue with the consolidated government.
it has ben talked about for years..... now is just a good time to do it with all the other Hope and Change happening. 
Posted on 10/11/19 at 12:58 pm to Golfer
And my point is that there have been challenges to it over the past 30 years, so it isn’t a matter of everything being hunky dory until St George.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 1:01 pm to CarRamrod
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it has ben talked about for years.....
Every so often, someone bitches about something random and says "this wouldn't happen with the consolidated government"
That's no actionable movement. People can talk all they want, but the last of the lawsuits were nearly 30 years ago.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 1:56 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Everybody knows nothing will change if st George fails.
Well no, I know one thing that would change. I’ll be getting the frick out of EBR and taking my property taxes with me. As will tens of thousands of others (eventually).
Posted on 10/11/19 at 2:09 pm to Golfer
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Eh. Up until recently no one even took issue with the consolidated government.
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Eh. Up until recently no one even took issue with the consolidated government.
I moved out of BR around 1980. Bought a home in the suburbs. I paid my taxes. I never thought about where they went or how things worked.
I had heard that BR wasn't annexing more subdivisions because of civil rights issues; thus I never believed BR would grow to where I lived.
When I first heard of an ISD, my kids had all graduated from high school, but I was interested in what SG organizers were talking about because we had to remove our kids from public school and send them to a private school to insure a safe, well rounded education in our neighborhood. I bought in to that notion. I knew Texas prospered with ISDs and I thought why not here.
I never thought about forming a city until the SG ISD was stopped, and a reason given was that we needed to have a city. That got me to thinking and I checked to see how things really worked.
I saw how the parish took care of certain services, and that independent, self-sustaining tax authorities took care of others. I began to see more clearly just what was happening and the more BR protested, and the more I looked at what Central did; the more convinced I was that the city of SG was a viable option.
I think there are a lot of folks like myself who educated themselves. I think we understand there is a better option especially after watching Mayor Broome, and the C-P Council screw up things even more.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 2:16 pm to Giantkiller
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I’ll be getting the frick out of EBR and taking my property taxes with me. As will tens of thousands of others (eventually).
So when you sell your house, the new owner won’t be paying property taxes
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Posted on 10/11/19 at 2:33 pm to doubleb
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I had heard that BR wasn't annexing more subdivisions because of civil rights issues; thus I never believed BR would grow to where I lived.
That doesn't make much sense... unless subdivisions were petitioning to get in and BR was saying no?
Posted on 10/11/19 at 2:47 pm to LSUBoo
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That doesn't make much sense... unless subdivisions were petitioning to get in and BR was saying no?
I don’t care if you think it makes sense or not.
Tell me why BR quit annexing properties for decades and why they did before that?
You just think people quit wanting to get into the city and have better fire service, street lighting and etc.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 2:56 pm to doubleb
BR can't annex property. That's not they city's call.
Property owners have to petition to be annexed.
Property owners have to petition to be annexed.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 2:56 pm to doubleb
The reason I was told was that the federal government started nullifying attempts by cities to incorporate new suburbs under the Voting Rights Act on the basis that doing so could be a naked attempt to dilute minority voting power. So, to avoid this restriction, the Parish and City consolidated their government in 1980, so incorporating became less important. Since then, the city has only occasionally incorporating new commercial areas in order to increase tax revenue, but has avoided incorporating residential neighborhoods so as not to have to deal with the feds or increase fire or BRPD services.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 3:00 pm to kingbob
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, but has avoided incorporating residential neighborhoods so as not to have to deal with the feds or increase fire or BRPD services.
I know Kip went on record several years ago when Denise Marcelle wanted BR to annex more areas and said BR couldn’t afford it.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 3:03 pm to LSUBoo
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BR can't annex property. That's not they city's call.
Property owners have to petition to be annexed.
You keep saying that, but if the prevailing wisdom is why ask if the Feds won’t approve it.
Besides before you ask the city, you have to have a petition drive( you need over 50% of the property owners) and get the required signatures and BR could still say no.
ETA/ BR can annex property, they recently annexed several parcels.
This post was edited on 10/11/19 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 10/11/19 at 3:04 pm to doubleb
Marcelle is dumber than Peej though. Gardere would have had to petition to be annexed just like St. George had to petition to incorporate.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 3:05 pm to doubleb
Yes, BR could still say no.
I'm just saying that the city has no prerogative on annexing anyone.
I'm just saying that the city has no prerogative on annexing anyone.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 3:16 pm to LSUBoo
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Marcelle is dumber than Peej though. Gardere would have had to petition to be annexed just like St. George had to petition to incorporate.
It depends what you call Gardere because BR city limits aren’t adjacent to what I call the Gardere area which in my mind is all South of Burbank. I don’t consider St. Jude and the surrounding neighborhoods a part of Gardere.
Gardere couldn’t petition because they aren’t adjacent to BR.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 3:16 pm to LSUBoo
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Yes, BR could still say no.
I'm just saying that the city has no prerogative on annexing anyone.
Exactly what I posted,
Posted on 10/11/19 at 3:17 pm to doubleb
That's true too... unless they drew the lines to include streets that connected them.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 3:21 pm to LSUBoo
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ted?) by LSUBoo
That's true too... unless they drew the lines to include streets that connected them.
No, neighborhoods not streets. Parcels of land not streets.
Go get 50% plus sigs anywhere and that’s not easy. To the credit of folks off Coursey who didn’t want in SG, their subdivision of 35 homes did the work, got the sigs, and BR accepted them.
It’s not easy and at the time BR wanted to make a statement so they accepted them.
Others could try, why aren’t they?
Posted on 10/11/19 at 3:21 pm to doubleb
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ETA/ BR can annex property, they recently annexed several parcels.
BR can't. At least they can't do it unwilling of the owners/residents.
It's a lot easier with commercial though, all they need is a singular property owner to request to be annexed.
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