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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/11/17 at 5:56 pm to AUTimbo
Posted on 10/11/17 at 5:56 pm to AUTimbo
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At @400 yds, I would imagine only a drop of 1-1/2 ft at that distance, i.e. hold for a head shot and easily hit upper center mass, IMHO.
All that ballistic math went out the window as soon as he fired the first shot. He wasnt shooting a precision rifle. He was using automatic/bump fire. The accuracy went out the window right there. It was basically point and shoot anyway.
Why havent we seen a picture of the note with these calculations? Im just supposed to take their word for it?
This whole investigation is BS. The guy is dead. The hotel video of him checking in with 10 suitcases or whatever should have already been aired. The fact that it hasnt has me questioning if he even fired a shot. Somebody did, but it doesnt have to be him.
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:37 pm to saintsfan1977
The 10 suitcases is the most easily explainable.
A couple of suitcases per trip up from car is not unreasonable. In a place where conferences and conventions are held frequently no one would question it.
Hell I stayed at the Hilton in New Orleans a few years ago for a convention and numerous pieces of luggage all stored in my room. I was by myself setting up and made many trips, maybe a dozen. Not one person even thought twice about it.
A couple of suitcases per trip up from car is not unreasonable. In a place where conferences and conventions are held frequently no one would question it.
Hell I stayed at the Hilton in New Orleans a few years ago for a convention and numerous pieces of luggage all stored in my room. I was by myself setting up and made many trips, maybe a dozen. Not one person even thought twice about it.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:38 pm to TigerFred
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numerous pieces of luggage all stored in my room. I was by myself setting up and made many trips, maybe a dozen. Not one person even thought twice about it.
were you shooting a porno?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:40 pm to saintsfan1977
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Why havent we seen a picture of the note
Because it says Alan Snackbar
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:51 pm to TigerFred
I completely understand he could have made multiple trips, but no video of him even once? Not even checking in? Thats BS.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:55 pm to saintsfan1977
I'm quite sure there is video, they just haven't released it. And seeing as how the hotel is publicly disputing statements made by investigators we won't see any hotel footage any time soon.
The whole situation is FUBAR'd
The whole situation is FUBAR'd
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:56 pm to saintsfan1977
It's likely because he was allowed access to the service elevator
Mandalay is going to do all they can to keep those images private
Mandalay is going to do all they can to keep those images private
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:56 pm to saintsfan1977
Sheriff and Under Sheriff both said that there are numerous videos of him around town.
Why are people so upset that these videos aren’t released to public?
Why are people so upset that these videos aren’t released to public?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 6:59 pm to TigerFred
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Why are people so upset that these videos aren’t released to public?
Because we arent getting the truth and likely wont.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:24 pm to saintsfan1977
I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all. None whatsoever. I pretty much dismissed all the all the accusations about the government, ISIS, 2nd shooter, etc since this event occurred. That being said, I’m really starting to wonder what the hell is going on here. Fox is now reporting that a hotel worker warned the MB about the shooter days in advance. I just saw the announcement but the segment hasn’t aired yet. The significant timeline changes are very substantial. The lack of any progress on motive is baffling. I’m going to quit calling all of y’all wacko tin foil hat wearers until we find out more about this incident. Y’all may be on to something. Probably not, but maybe. Possibly.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:28 pm to supadave3
The whole things weird, and there's likely some unexpected wrinkle still coming but who knows... I refuse to cave and call the people "pissed that we don't have video" by lunch the next day reasonable even if they were right that something was up. Similar to a lotto ticket not being wise financial planning even if you happen to win some day.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:34 pm to saintsfan1977
Little or no information doesn’t mean you are not being told the truth.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:34 pm to NoSaint
Someone please give one good reason why we havent heard from Jesus?
Why have we heard from one of the two men in the hallway but not the other?
Why is Jesus being guarded at his house with weapons but the other is doing daily talk show interviews?
No tinfoil here, but just would like opinions on these basic questions
Why have we heard from one of the two men in the hallway but not the other?
Why is Jesus being guarded at his house with weapons but the other is doing daily talk show interviews?
No tinfoil here, but just would like opinions on these basic questions
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:38 pm to slapahoe
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Someone please give one good reason why we havent heard from Jesus?
Because Jesus is the actual shooter.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:39 pm to slapahoe
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:41 pm to supadave3
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Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all. None whatsoever. I pretty much dismissed all the all the accusations about the government, ISIS, 2nd shooter, etc since this event occurred. That being said, I’m really starting to wonder what the hell is going on here. Fox is now reporting that a hotel worker warned the MB about the shooter days in advance. I just saw the announcement but the segment hasn’t aired yet. The significant timeline changes are very substantial. The lack of any progress on motive is baffling. I’m going to quit calling all of y’all wacko tin foil hat wearers until we find out more about this incident. Y’all may be on to something. Probably not, but maybe. Possibly.
I'm not a conspiracy guy either so my take on this is that the hotel is trying to limit the amount of information available because they are trying to save face for the impending lawsuits.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:45 pm to slapahoe
Pretty sure the likely answer is that Jesus is here illegally or on expired visa, so the people in charge are wanting to keep him under wraps for many reasons. Being that most people still think he was the hero and stopped Paddock, it kinda goes against the whole political narrative regarding illegals right now and would be used as nothing but SJW and Dem fodder to slow Trumps plans even further.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:47 pm to VaBamaMan
quote:Disagree. Shooting the tanks was always part of the plan. He had all the people he could shoot from the corner window...it didn't make sense why the other window was smashed unless he needed that to make the shot to the tanks.
I really don't think he planned on trying to shoot them beforehand.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:48 pm to RazorBroncs
Or, maybe he saw something none of us are supposed to know about. Like, multiple shooters.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:51 pm to saintsfan1977
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completely understand he could have made multiple trips, but no video of him even once? Not even checking in? Thats BS.
They show a clip of him checking in with two big bags and what changes for you?
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