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Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:59 pm to
Ummmm EITEK1 said his home in Las Vegas was broken into. I bet it was Dan Bilzerian who broke in.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143774 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:00 pm to
Break the thread down for me 480?

Do we really know anything other than the shooters identity at this point?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Ummmm EITEK1 said his home in Las Vegas was broken into. I bet it was Dan Bilzerian who broke in.



Well EITEK1, whatever that is, is wrong baw
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Do we really know anything other than the shooters identity at this point?



Other than the fact Dan Bilzerian could have saved a ton of lives if the other cops had left him no we don't know much at all, nothing but conspiracy shite
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45118 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:03 pm to
From what I understand there's a gap between the outer shell and the actual tank wall. Even if a bullet could pierce the outer steel wall, seems it wouldn't have the power to then pierce through another steel wall to get to the fuel. They did report a couple of bullet holes in the tank so I assume they pierced the outer shell only.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33255 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Other than the fact Dan Bilzerian could have saved a ton of lives if the other cops had left him no we don't know much at all, nothing but conspiracy shite


Worse than anything that swamp guy posted all day
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3821 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

From what I understand there's a gap between the outer shell and the actual tank wall. Even if a bullet could pierce the outer steel wall, seems it wouldn't have the power to then pierce through another steel wall to get to the fuel. They did report a couple of bullet holes in the tank so I assume they pierced the outer shell only.


This i would think would be true, the bullet mushrooms or even degenerates going through the first shell which makes it even more unlikely that it pierces the second
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68036 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:08 pm to
quote:



Other than the fact Dan Bilzerian could have saved a ton of lives if the other cops had left him no we don't know much at all, nothing but conspiracy shite


not even trying anymore
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96848 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:15 pm to
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Depends on if there is ventilation or not, A conservation vent is intended to provide pressure and/or vacuum relief for atmospheric or low pressure storage tanks. That being said these valves are made to release pressure for the most part but if they arent working properly can allow air in. I would think that a tank storing jet fuel would have an atmospheric vent to relieve pressure from changing temperatures and vapors exc. Also the vapors of the jet fuel would be easier to ignite rather than actually shooting into the jet fuel.


We ship hydrofluoric acid 99.7% purity in 20T isotanks and the only pressure relief on the tank is the safety relief valves (2 of them) and they are ALWAYS pressurized with a nitrogen blanket under the 80% rule.

I don't know if the 80% rule applies to stationary tanks but I would assume so considering they are also probably always under pressure.

Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37831 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Other than the fact Dan Bilzerian could have saved a ton of lives if the other cops had left him


Lulz. If you were a cop you would have given your weapon to some random dude and let him shoot up a hotel? That cop would have been fired immediately. And probably brought up on some kind of charges.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8301 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:24 pm to
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not even trying anymore


How many times have we(we = everyone) disproved the "Dan the big balls man coulda been a hero, man" narrative?

I would wager the number is well over a baker's dozen
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:24 pm to
Dan Bilzerian was really the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll after he planted the shells in the aviation fuel tanks. That's where I would be looking if I were you guys.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

Lulz. If you were a cop you would have given your weapon to some random dude and let him shoot up a hotel? That cop would have been fired immediately. And probably brought up on some kind of charges.


Why can't a cop can give his rifle to another cop?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143774 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:37 pm to
Thanks broham. I don’t trust any of these newer posters.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143774 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 4:40 pm to
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idlewatcher


Is your company a Responsible Care member?
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37831 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 5:07 pm to
The fact that you think any cop would give up their gun during a mass shooting is fricking funny.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 5:25 pm to
Anytime
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39226 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

Do we really know anything other than the shooters identity at this point?

It kinda doesn't matter because whatever facts we think we know now could be "walked back" later by the cops.

fricking over-politicized FBI.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3311 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

At 400 yards a .223 bullet drops 3' but yes he could have just propped up and fired till he started hitting people to judge his angle



On flat land yes.

At an angle, shooting either up or down comparable to being on the 32nd floor or shooting up at the 32nd floor, less compensation is needed since in either scenario the bullet will drop less than if shot level from the ground. At @400 yds, I would imagine only a drop of 1-1/2 ft at that distance, i.e. hold for a head shot and easily hit upper center mass, IMHO.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 5:40 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109184 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 5:53 pm to
It's time to stop relying on the "authorities" to bring us the truth. We need a joint OT/PT task force to investigate the shooting. We will meet at the end of the month in Vegas to compare notes and perform witness interviews.

We will discover the truth by day, then at night it's hookers and blow.
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