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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by jamboybarry
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:05 pm to
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That theory (which I do believe) hinges on there being a video of him proclaiming that we haven't been told about. Something along those lines has been alluded to thought.


But no official statements on any video of the sort? Correct?
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:06 pm to
No I haven’t that’s why I was asking? But then brings you back to how did he plan on escaping with all those guns?
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Any reason he couldn’t have just started shooting through the windows? If it was me I don’t think I would have worried about a hammer.

Did he have a glass cutter with him?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:07 pm to
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But then brings you back to how did he plan on escaping with all those guns?


No clue and don't think he did. The Sheriff did say he had some sort of escape plan so I think that throws another wrench in the ISIS/gunrunning theory
Posted by Rossberg02
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:09 pm to
I don’t see how a person intelligent enough to pull this off actually believed he could escape. He knew he was going to have to end himself or be ended by cops.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:09 pm to
But not more then the guy in the video.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:09 pm to
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The Sheriff did say he had some sort of escape plan


probably had a LVPD uniform with him. :mindblown:
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:10 pm to
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I don’t see how a person intelligent enough to pull this off actually believed he could escape. He knew he was going to have to end himself or be ended by cops.


The escape plan was for the other guys
Posted by Psychoanalysis
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:12 pm to
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If he had the guns in his vehicle and he went back and forth 4 or 5 times in an hour, the people who watches the eyes in the skies would pick up on it as well as the people on


1. He checked in days before the incident and did nothing suspicious.

2. He could've fit everything he brought in two large suitcases and a golf bag
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:14 pm to
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2. He could've fit everything he brought in two large suitcases and a golf bag




double digit assualt rifles? You serious?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:14 pm to
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That doesn't address any of the points I made and ISIS has made false claims before


Not nearly as common as some of you are saying. They rarely make false claims, as it damages the loyalty they have from their followers. They remain silent on things that they commit, but it has only been very recently that they've made claims that have not been officially substantiated, and it's been very few times.

There is some belief that now that they have weakened, they may be more apt to falsely claim responsibility. But the experts say once they do this, they lose a great deal of credibility in the Muslim and terrorist world, so they normally do not make false claims about responsibility for terrorist acts.

In this case, they were pretty specific, even telling of Paddock's muslim given name.
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:16 pm to
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Not nearly as common as some of you are saying. They rarely make false claims, as it damages the loyalty they have from their followers. They remain silent on things that they commit, but it has only been very recently that they've made claims that have not been officially substantiated, and it's been very few times.

There is some belief that now that they have weakened, they may be more apt to falsely claim responsibility. But the experts say once they do this, they lose a great deal of credibility in the Muslim and terrorist world, so they normally do not make false claims about responsibility for terrorist acts.

In this case, they were pretty specific, even telling of Paddock's muslim given name


Thank you
Posted by Psychoanalysis
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:19 pm to
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double digit assualt rifles? You serious?




Yes. Do you have any familiarity with guns? They all break down into pieces pretty easily. I highly doubt this guy walked in with a bunch of fully assembled and loaded rifles.

He breaks them all down, and jams them in a couple suitcase? Very Plausible.

Yall are acting like the guy had 40 bags and brought each gun individually wrapped at a separate time. 3 or 4 suitcases, 50lbs each is about all he would need. Standard luggage.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:19 pm to
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Not nearly as common as some of you are saying.


But they have. I'm not saying there is zero chance he's a mooselimb but some in here reach at every straw to keep that theory alive when there is literally zero other evidence (based on previous incidents) that he is.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:19 pm to
our government makes isis look like choir boys when it comes to lies.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Yes. Do you have any familiarity with guns? They all break down into pieces pretty easily. I highly doubt this guy walked in with a bunch of fully assembled and loaded rifles.


Of course but it was like 15 assault rifles and thousands of rounds in clips.

2 suitcases seems like a stretch.
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3821 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

our government makes isis look like choir boys when it comes to lies.


And they feed the choir boys guns and ammo
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39221 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:24 pm to
Re: your theory - Why would Isis work so hard to conceal their involvement when that is the exact opposite of what they almost always do, take credit for attacks?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:26 pm to
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But they have.

That's questionable. If you look at one of my earlier posts, I linked an expert that says they have NEVER taken credit for one they didn't do. He says every single claim they've made, they can substantiate a tie to ISIS. I didn't state it as fact because I have seen other articles where there was an opinion that a few were not, but not many at all. Way less than implied by most in here.

quote:

there is literally zero other evidence (based on previous incidents) that he is.

ISIS claiming it is pretty strong evidence.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33255 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:26 pm to


quote:

Do you have any familiarity with guns?

Of course but it was like 15 assault rifles and thousands of rounds in clips.


Awwwweee shite
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