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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:03 am to
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:03 am to
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His father was on the FBIs most wanted list in the 60s. Enough proof?




Didn't know that if you're on the FBIs most wanted list that you are psychopathic. Link?

And what's that have to do with the son?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:04 am to
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At the start of the video the gunfire is very close to the person taping and right after you hear an echo. At the 45 second mark there is more gunfire from a greater distance away.

Definitely sounds like two very separate shooters.


The same thing can be heard on the Mandalay Bay cab video (assuming you're talking about a different video).

That is easily explained by the two different windows and the different directions they faced.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6024 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:05 am to
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I think the motive is pretty clear.

Older baby boomer liberal shoots country music loving conservatives.

I don't think he was put up to it as some grand conspiracy. I'm pretty sure he was just brain washed by whatever media he consumes until he snapped.

The only conspiracy to my line of thinking is that the government is down playing that angle so it doesn't erupt with retaliation. Which seems entirely plausible.


All of this.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:06 am to
He was smart enough to know that people would run away, so he set up another position. He obviously didn't decide to do it last week
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3382 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:09 am to
Stop being the antagonist. You question and downplay everything someone states, even if it’s fact and not an opinion. I have no idea what kind of proof you’re looking for but all the proof I need is over 500 people are injured or dead. And everything points to this being a lone gunman.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104153 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:09 am to
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With a few exceptions, they've ignored the one truly questionable allegation: His girlfriend was coincidentally out of the country?


I don't know how many similar types of music festivals/events go on at that location, but looking at Google Earth it's set up with a stage off and on as far back at March 2014... could have been he had been thinking about this for a while, knew ahead of time she would be out of town, and that there would be festival going on.

Curious as to when he booked that room.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:11 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:09 am to
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What makes you think I'm trolling? Because I'm asking questions about things that don't make sense?


Because you're a relatively level-headed poster that has trolled in the past.

Your insinuation that this is a false flag until you see a video showing a bullet penetrate someone while having the muzzle flash from the corner suite of the Mandalay Bay in the same frame makes it obvious you're trolling.
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:11 am to
They are definitely holding on to information for one reason or another. It's either they are going after accomplices, or they are downplaying it and trying to find other reasons.

Is it likely a 64 year old was part of a terrorist cell? I don't think so, but crazier things have happened
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20446 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:12 am to
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They are definitely holding on to information for one reason or another. It's either they are going after accomplices, or they are downplaying it and trying to find other reasons.


Truth

quote:

Is it likely a 64 year old was part of a terrorist cell? I don't think so, but crazier things have happened


Is it true that antifa materials were found?
Posted by Chewbacha
North LA
Member since Mar 2011
180 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:14 am to
The shots that are faint are most likely when he shot security guard in building. Muzzle would have been facing away from outside
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:14 am to
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Is it true that antifa materials were found?
We have zero information other than what was let loose within 12hrs. Zero in 36hrs other than a name, a number of guns, and basic information that anyone in the public can find
Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1799 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:15 am to
Do we know if he played any football growing up? I would love to examine (well not me, personally) his brain for CTE.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43476 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:15 am to
Has anyone posted pictures of the actual weapons?

If not, here you go:

Fox 25 Boston



Whats that? Not gonna say AR because I dont wanna be ignorant.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:17 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34928 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:16 am to
It’s pretty frustrating to me that everyone wants information IMMIEDIATELY, and if the feds, government, etc doesn’t give it to them right away, that means they are hiding something or controlling the masses


This investigation needs to be thorough and accurate.. the general public isn’t entitled to find out any of the intricate details, why is that so hard to understand??

The only thing that should be pertinent RIGHT NOW is if the general public is in imminent danger from another attack - and I’m pretty sure they’d let us know
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:16 am to
Investigators owe it to the victims to make sure that all parties involved are brought to Justice. This is only the day after ballistics need to be done matching bullets to guns yada yada. Let's not just swallow the initial story hours after the shooting
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118257 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:18 am to
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. Let's not just swallow the initial story hours after the shooting



Agreed.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:18 am to
Surefire extended mags and bump fire stocks, not surprising. Bipod on a DMR.
No vert grip/bipod el cheapo combo

I'm supposed to believe this guy had no gun knowledge/hobbies?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40828 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:18 am to
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Is it true that antifa materials were found?


I have not heard that as fact, but I have heard that theory put out there.

I don't think this was some major operation by a group though. Like I said, I honestly think the guy is an old liberal baby boomer, living out in the desert, reading articles about how racists Trump and his supporters are, etc. until he bought in to that BS hook, line and sinker.

He was just crazy enough to form an evil plan and execute it on innocent stereotypes of the people he despised.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:19 am to
Soooo no belt fed, no drums, no cranks, and seemingly no bump stock?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179349 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:19 am to
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