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re: Mass shooting at Atlanta area high school
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:07 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:07 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I damn well demand it from strangers.
This is the part where the movement loses everyone. Don't ask us to conform to your mental illness.
You want sympathy for being mentall ill? Check
You want me to pretend that you aren't a man so you can feel better instead of seeking the treatment you need? No thanks.
No, my friend, that is not at all what I demand. I demand that you mind your fricking business and will extend you the same courtesy. In the case of what you are referring to it is demanding that you allow me and my medical professionals and family determine what the best course of action would be for me were I to be diagnosed with cancer. Not gender dysphoria but the same would apply. That is not sympathy it is common human decency. It is none of your fricking business.
I could give a frick less what you pretend. You can pretend you are a giraffe. Your perception of me is as meaningful as that of an oak tree....I could care less. What I do demand is, again, you mind your own fricking business. Get into mine and I am going to correct your indiscretion immediately. Not physically, so drop the internet badass shite, but verbally and successfully. I will extend you the same courtesy. I will leave you the frick alone and expect the same from you. Why that is problematic for you is an issue you should address, or not, makes a frick to me, but I will offer this advice for what it is worth - your concern about what other people are doing, thinking, sayiing or anything else is none of your fricking business.
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:09 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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You say a lot of stuff and have a lot of opinions for someone who doesn't have the affliction and isn't medically trained. Cutting off your dick to treat your brain is akin to cutting off your foot for a toothache
I could not agree more. I do so as someone who is not afflicted with the disease and not trained to treat toothaches. As such I trust patients, their families and their trained professionals to do what they think is best. If they frick up it is their decision to make, not mine. Why is that soooooo damned controversial???
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:11 am to Scruffy
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You are truly a psychopath. Damn.
Please provide some documentation that minding one's own business and allowing others the same courtesy is indicative of a psychopathic condition? Of course you can't do this because it does not exist. Your opinion on the matter, like most, is meaningless, but thanks for participating.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:17 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:Supporting the dismemberment and castration of individuals, including children, as a method of “curing” them, solely because an individual said it was beneficial (without blatantly obvious data stating that as a fact), is, in my opinion, the mindset of a psychopath or an individual with significant mental inhibition.
Please provide some documentation that minding one's own business and allowing others the same courtesy is indicative of a psychopathic condition?
This conversation is going nowhere though.
It is apparent that you cannot be convinced that castrating children, either chemically or physically, is wrong.
It isn’t worthwhile to continue this discussion at this point.
Have a fantastic day.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 10:21 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:24 am to WylieTiger
This is exactly what I was thinking, but couldn’t put it into proper words. I feel our systems is messing these kids up, these medial systems such as Ochsner are evil. If a kid doesn’t have solid smart parents, they are screwed. I will go one step further and say I think most autistics are man made. It’s the current ADHD of the times.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:26 am to AwgustaDawg
Just catching up on this thread and
Holy fricking shite. Take a break dude.
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AwgustaDawg
Holy fricking shite. Take a break dude.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:28 am to VanRIch
did I miss something? how did this thread turn into a trans debate?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:29 am to VanRIch
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Take a break dude.
He is a tard.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:30 am to AwgustaDawg
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As such I trust patients, their families and their trained professionals to do what they think is best.
This line of logic is comical. You would trust parents and doctors in a cult? How about if a parent beats their kid with a belt and has an old school doctor? It's funny, because once a person gets past the well crafted sentences, the arguments you lay out tend to be extremely logically flawed.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:34 am to SUB
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What I'm hearing is that Parents should have free will to do whatever they like with their children. Give them drugs, abuse them, etc. After all, it is none of our business.
Is there nothing virtuous and altruistic about defending the defenseless?
I see that you conveniently left out anything about children, parents and MEDICAL professionals. I think it is very much the responsibility of each of us to demand from medical professionals that they use their skills, knowledge and training to provide the best medical care for their patients that they can. This means approval of medical procedures and drugs and their use. I am in no position to examine every case, ours is an imperfect system which seems to work pretty damn well.
Defending the defenseless is admirable. Interfering in approved medical treatments that children's parents and their medical professionals think are in the best interests of the child based on feelings is not admirable. To tell parents and medical professionals that they must do some treatment and can't do another when both have been shown to be effective and have been approved is not admirable, it is an infringement into the rights of an individual that I am not willing to secede to the state. I am completely on board with making it difficult to perform surgery on a child as a treatment for gender dysphoria. I think there should be an extensive amount of examination, mental and physical, as well as counseling for everyone involved.
If it were possible that someone could carry their 6 month old son to a doctor on their first visit at 9 AM Monday and by 930 AM Monday that child's pecker was lying in the waste bin I would be opposed to it. That doesn't happen. It takes more than that, and it damn well should. It is my understanding that surgery is very rare in children. I may be wrong.
I am not. ALL gender affirming surgery in the US shows none has been done on anyone under 12 years of age. the number of surgical interventions between the ages of 12 and 18 are 2.1 per 100,000 diagnosis and 5.3 per 100,000 between the ages of 18 and 25. 97.1% of these were breast reductions in males....cisgender males....males who identify as boys who undergo breast reduction surgery because they think their breasts are too large. The idea that kids are getting their pecker lopped off is ludicrous.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:36 am to Scruffy
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It is apparent that you cannot be convinced that castrating children, either chemically or physically, is wrong.
Given that there is no indication it is happening in the US, according to the scientific data, it being wrong or not is unimportant. Were I to say the sky was green it would not matter because the sky is not green....
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:36 am to AwgustaDawg
You certainly do out a lot of faith the MEDICAL professionals. You are aware they’re sometimes wrong, sometimes have agendas and are sometimes bought?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:37 am to Salmon
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did I miss something? how did this thread turn into a trans debate?
I think we all know how. The posters who push political ideologies into every single one of these threads are a sad bunch. They can't help themselves
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:37 am to PJinAtl
So the parents and shooter were interviewed in 2023 and the dad said he had hunting rifles but his son did not have "unsupervised access to them."
The parents need to be arrested if he got the gun from them, which in all likelihood is the case. How the frick do you not have your guns locked up after the FBI has investigated your child for planning a school shooting? Gross negligence is an understatement.
The parents need to be arrested if he got the gun from them, which in all likelihood is the case. How the frick do you not have your guns locked up after the FBI has investigated your child for planning a school shooting? Gross negligence is an understatement.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:37 am to jchamil
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We also do not tell cancer patients that their illness is disgusting and they ought to be ashamed of themselves for being afflicted with cancer.
Because they’re not even remotely close to being the same thing
awDawg is really going off the deep end with crappy comparisons.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:40 am to Jcorye1
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This line of logic is comical. You would trust parents and doctors in a cult? How about if a parent beats their kid with a belt and has an old school doctor? It's funny, because once a person gets past the well crafted sentences, the arguments you lay out tend to be extremely logically flawed.
Yes, I trust parents and doctors at say a Catholic of Baptist hospital and both are, by definition, cults.
Many people are convinced that parents should beat their child with a belt. I do not completely disagree, I spanked my kids when they were little. It didn't do much good and was an admission of me having reached the end of my ability to cope with them but they seem to be fine. As far as old school doctors many people only have such a doctor available. I can't fix the problems of the world and in all honesty ain't sure I should meddle in them....if a person has an old school doctor and they trust them who am I too meddle?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:42 am to AwgustaDawg
Would you get a 6 month old the COVID shot?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:42 am to VanRIch
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You certainly do out a lot of faith the MEDICAL professionals. You are aware they’re sometimes wrong, sometimes have agendas and are sometimes bought?
Without a doubt. In fact I would much prefer dealing with a lawyer than a doctor because you can rely on a lawyer to do what is best in their interests while a doctor may pretend otherwise. That said its the best we have. It is not perfect but its all we got. It is also, compared to the rest of the world, pretty damned good.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:44 am to Pettifogger
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Would you get a 6 month old the COVID shot?
If the preponderance of the medical community indicated it would be beneficial yes. I would not go to Walmart and get one without consulting a doctor.
Apparently the CDC does not recommend it therefore I would not.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 10:45 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 10:45 am to AwgustaDawg
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If the preponderance of the medical community indicated it would be beneficial yes. I would not go to Walmart and get one without consulting a doctor.
Says a lot about you that in 2024 you didn't simply answer this question with "no."
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