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re: Marksville City Marshals......Breaking two officers charged with murder
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:33 am to slackster
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:33 am to slackster
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I'm just giving them a little kudos that they've released some damning evidence against their "brethren" in a timely manner. Usually these investigations take forever.
I'm not saying it has been perfect, and I've got no good reason for them failing to review the video.
As for the officers involved, I don't really know what the state is supposed to do when the officers won't cooperate. I'm not being an arse, I genuinely don't know what their options are at this point.
Its because a kid was killed. In the grand karmic scheme most people can be ok with an adult criminal being shot but when you play cowboy and kill a kid...well you lose a lot of friends. Innocent people getting shot is a pretty clear indication that that the cops were being reckless and 99% of rational people see that immediately. The remainder just have a hard time thinking rationally with a giant police cock in their mouths.
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Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:35 am to dagrippa
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Well, if you are waiting for the "facts" to come out how have you reached that conclusion?
I said leaning...doesn't mean I have concluded anything yet
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I assumed the father was a piece of shite wanted for something serious when all this went down. Now, it sure looks like a different story.
wait so you know think the father was a good guy and didn't put his child in danger? did he not try to escape?
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:37 am to Mung
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As many times as they read suspects their Miranda rights, I would bet they know when they should remain silent and lawyer up.
I get that they should as citizens being charged with a crime but they still have a responsibility to assist in an investigation per their duties as policemen. If you refuse to perform those duties you should be disciplined.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:37 am to magildachunks
Reader's Digest version:
Cops get in shootout with a suspect who is stuck at a dead end street after leading them on a chase because of his outstanding warrants and then threatening their lives with his vehicle by ramming into their patrol cars.
Except he didn't hit their vehicles, his vehicle was perpendicular to the patrol cars at the time of the shooting, he had no outstanding warrants, he was concerned for his own safety due to a personal dispute with a marshal, and he didn't have a gun.
fricking tragic, and marshals involved are completely and rightfully fricked.
Cops get in shootout with a suspect who is stuck at a dead end street after leading them on a chase because of his outstanding warrants and then threatening their lives with his vehicle by ramming into their patrol cars.
Except he didn't hit their vehicles, his vehicle was perpendicular to the patrol cars at the time of the shooting, he had no outstanding warrants, he was concerned for his own safety due to a personal dispute with a marshal, and he didn't have a gun.
fricking tragic, and marshals involved are completely and rightfully fricked.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:40 am to Topwater Trout
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wait so you know think the father was a good guy and didn't put his child in danger? did he not try to escape?
According to the police who apparently arent talking now and whose original story doesnt match up with the evidence at the scene, yes this guy was a crazed killer out for police blood.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:41 am to Topwater Trout
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wait so you know think the father was a good guy and didn't put his child in danger? did he not try to escape?
If failing to pull over for the cops during is putting yourself in a life-and-death situation, then we're beyond fricked as citizens.
No one is saying the father is an angel, but none of his actions that have been proven thus far should have realistically put his child in a life and death situation.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:42 am to Barf
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This is bullshite. This happened Tuesday, they should have reviewed the video already. Putting it off makes the whole bunch look like idiots.
I understand not viewing the video at first because the viewpoint will be limited and you don't want it to skew your study of the evidence, but for frick's sake it has been long enough.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:42 am to Topwater Trout
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wait so you know think the father was a good guy and didn't put his child in danger? did he not try to escape?
My dad used to let us ride in the back of his truck with no seat belts. Should a cop have had the right to come and shoot us because my dad put us in danger?
The cops had no right to shoot at the car!!! Whatever the dad did it absolutely had NOTHING to do with the child being killed. You are connecting dots which should not being connected.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:43 am to Robin Masters
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You are connecting dots which should not being connected.
You are thinking too much. OBEY.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:45 am to slackster
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If failing to pull over for the cops during is putting yourself in a life-and-death situation,
I guess you have never heard of people wrecking while trying to get away?
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but none of his actions that have been proven thus far should have realistically put his child in a life and death situation.
so the father should not take into account the actual possibilities of what could happen? isn't being shot (right or wrong) always a possibility when dealing with people that have guns?
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:46 am to dagrippa
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You are thinking too much. OBEY.
I dont trust police...it must be because I have so much to hide.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:46 am to SabiDojo
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I understand not viewing the video at first because the viewpoint will be limited and you don't want it to skew your study of the evidence, but for frick's sake it has been long enough.
I'm genuinely curious - how much time each day is devoted to an investigation like this? I assume you secure the scene as soon as possible and do what you need to do there, but once that is done, I'd imagine it is handled during the typical work day rather than a 24-hours/7-days a week kind of thing.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:49 am to Robin Masters
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My dad used to let us ride in the back of his truck with no seat belts. Should a cop have had the right to come and shoot us because my dad put us in danger?
that is logic right there
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The cops had no right to shoot at the car!!! Whatever the dad did it absolutely had NOTHING to do with the child being killed.
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You are connecting dots which should not being connected.
a child is dead...things happened to cause his death...if you use logic you will figure out the first thing that set the events into motion
if he stopped would the kid be alive?
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:50 am to slackster
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No one is saying the father is an angel, but none of his actions that have been proven thus far should have realistically put his child in a life and death situation.
Reading this, it sounds like the dad knew there was trouble coming when he saw the lights and heard the sirens. It's shitty to say, but I am not sure the dad had any real options. I mean if the marshals had a vendetta against this guy, the dad had to know his son was in danger. It must be terrifying knowing that the people supposed to protect you are putting your family in danger because of a personal dispute.
Here's the 10 million dollar question for the OT-
Do you run and try to get your kid out of harms way? Or stay and roll the dice that the marshals will be nice to you, knowing that him staying may put him in danger? You can't really call the police, and you can run, but does that help or hurt?
There's no good angle to this.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:51 am to NYNolaguy1
So, it was a personal dispute?
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:52 am to Topwater Trout
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isn't being shot (right or wrong) always a possibility when dealing with people that have guns?
Yes, you're right. I guess I just don't want to accept the fact that being shot and killed for no reason is a legitimate conclusion to an event like this.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:52 am to SabiDojo
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So, it was a personal dispute?
That's what it's looking like.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:53 am to NYNolaguy1
well, based on the story that his girlfriend was next to him at the light, you stop and let them arrest you so she can take your kid home.
no excuse for the police actions mind you, but the more witnesses the better.
no excuse for the police actions mind you, but the more witnesses the better.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:55 am to Topwater Trout
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if he stopped would the kid be alive?
Honestly, given the facts that have come to light as to how this all ended, you can legitimately say that the marshals would have still fired at the vehicle. I wish that wasn't the case, but they were completely unprovoked in the current chain of events, so there is no reason to think they would have acted any other way had he not run.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:55 am to Topwater Trout
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that is logic right there
I was just following your retarded logic which stated that because the dad put the kids in danger it was ok that the cops shot him.
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a child is dead...things happened to cause his death...if you use logic you will figure out the first thing that set the events into motion
if he stopped would the kid be alive?
It wasn't the first thing that set the events into motion at all. You can logically go back to the moment the dad was born trying to find the event which set this entire chain of events in motion. No, at a certain point the cops themselves decided to irrationally use deadly force and that decision alone caused the child death.
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