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re: Marksville City Marshals......Breaking two officers charged with murder

Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:08 am to
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53725 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:08 am to
quote:

He was reportedly afraid of the marshals “because he and one of the marshals on the scene had a prior personal conflict.”


Wow, this is getting crazy
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:11 am to
damn
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:12 am to
Just pathetic.

We cannot continue to put severely under-trained individuals on the streets to protect and serve in situations where tensions can get out of hand and adrenaline can get the best of someone.

It certainly isn't much of a logical jump to assume these officers/marshals were amped up about what may have been their first chase, and the second they cornered the suspect on the dead-end street, they were ready for the gunfight that they've seen many times in the movies. It seems all it took for them to begin firing into the vehicle was the slightest hint of danger or an unrelated sound of some sort. Now a 6 year old is dead and his father is in critical-condition.

I'm usually a pretty ardent supporter of police, and I believe most are good people, but that doesn't change the fact that many are still woefully inept at dealing with these types of situations. Things have to change.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:12 am to
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He was reportedly afraid of the marshals “because he and one of the marshals on the scene had a prior personal conflict.


If this is the case, we could have a murderer hiding behind his badge.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:15 am to
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If this is the case, we could have a murderer hiding behind his badge.



And...

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He added that the officers involved – there are four – had so far refused to speak with state police investigators.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:17 am to
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Moments later, she said, as the cars pulled away from the light, she saw two marshals’ cars—marked in black and white—approaching from behind with their lights flashing. She looked into Few’s car as he pulled away, and he was pointing at his son’s head, indicating that he was in the car and he wasn’t sure what to do.

The reason for Few’s uncertainty? He was reportedly afraid of the marshals “because he and one of the marshals on the scene had a prior personal conflict.”


WTF man, this shite is terrible. Picture of the kid a few posts back really almost brings me to tears.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70028 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:19 am to
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So you've changed your stance on the issue?


I am leaning towards these cops being pieces of shite

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Poor kid...


I have always felt terrible for the kid...but still think the father put him in danger.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35926 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:21 am to
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He added that the officers involved – there are four – had so far refused to speak with state police investigators.


Seems like that would be a violation of police procedure and should merit some discipline, no? Isn't it their job to assist in investigations? I would expect an immediate suspension or termination for refusing to perform duties.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:21 am to
One thing to note, perhaps a silver lining of sorts, is that the state police investigation seems to be moving along swiftly and facts are coming to light very quickly. Granted, they haven't reviewed the video nor have they spoke to the officers involved, but I'm sure the former is going to happen soon and the latter is out of their hands if those people are refusing to cooperate.

Things must be really terrible for the marshals if this much negative information has already been released by the state's investigation.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:21 am to
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“I don’t know why he felt the need to start patrolling in city limits,” Lemoine said Thursday of Voinche. “It makes no sense to me.”


When you play by a different set of rules than everyone else, reality starts getting slippery. For Lemoine to say it makes no sense is just him refusing to take responsibility for his own failures.

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Edmonson also said video footage of the incident does exist, but that investigators have not reviewed it.


This is bullshite. This happened Tuesday, they should have reviewed the video already. Putting it off makes the whole bunch look like idiots.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:23 am to
quote:

One thing to note, perhaps a silver lining of sorts, is that the state police investigation seems to be moving along swiftly and facts are coming to light very quickly


Uh, what?

quote:

they haven't reviewed the video nor have they spoke to the officers involved


So for the last three days they have looked at the car, and the scene. Nothing else. I guess the mayor made a statement, that must count for something.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70028 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:23 am to
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who say the police can do no wrong


Not wanting to string them up without facts is saying they can do no wrong? I don't get how yall come to these conclusions. My position is always lets wait and see what the facts are...if the cops did wrong I want the maximum penalty they can get.
Posted by MeauxMoney
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2010
504 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Isn't it their job to assist in investigations?


Not against themselves. The are still citizens with 5th amendment rights.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:25 am to
City Marshals in the state of Louisiana are absolutely the worst sham and shake-down group in 2015.

Hopefully this story sheds more light on how corrupt and completely unnecessary these departments are, and perhaps we can get a positive change out of this tragedy.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35926 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:27 am to
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Not against themselves. The are still citizens with 5th amendment rights.


So cops can potentially plead the 5th in any case they are involved in because it might incriminate them of some wrongdoing? Not being argumentative I just don't know how this works.
Posted by MeauxMoney
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2010
504 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:27 am to
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The state police found no evidence of any sort of contact with the victim's car. The state police aren't some podunk police department that is fine with lying about everything.



LMAO
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:28 am to
quote:

One thing to note, perhaps a silver lining of sorts, is that the state police investigation seems to be moving along swiftly and facts are coming to light very quickly


Uh, what?


I'm just giving them a little kudos that they've released some damning evidence against their "brethren" in a timely manner. Usually these investigations take forever.

I'm not saying it has been perfect, and I've got no good reason for them failing to review the video.

As for the officers involved, I don't really know what the state is supposed to do when the officers won't cooperate. I'm not being an arse, I genuinely don't know what their options are at this point.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:29 am to
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I have always felt terrible for the kid...but still think the father put him in danger.


Well, if you are waiting for the "facts" to come out how have you reached that conclusion?

I must admit I assumed the father was a piece of shite wanted for something serious when all this went down. Now, it sure looks like a different story.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9300 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:30 am to
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Seems like that would be a violation of police procedure and should merit some discipline, no? Isn't it their job to assist in investigations? I would expect an immediate suspension or termination for refusing to perform duties.


As many times as they read suspects their Miranda rights, I would bet they know when they should remain silent and lawyer up.

Reminds me of the Chappelle skit on taking the Fif
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 9:31 am to
I want to know what the beef with the Marshal was for the guy to be scared of him.

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