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re: Mark Hughes, owner of the Cannery in NOLA had a private meeting with Latoya Cantrell
Posted on 9/22/20 at 11:47 pm to RedFoxx
Posted on 9/22/20 at 11:47 pm to RedFoxx
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All of that still in spite of decades of terrible leadership. Imagine how much New Orleans could thrive if there was a competent mayor.
Such a waste and missed opportunity....it's never too late but I'll probably see it turn around in my life time...maybe in about 30 years..I guess I'll be in my 70's things may be different
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Posted on 9/22/20 at 11:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
New Orleans would truly be one of the great cities of the world with just half decent leadership. So much wasted potential.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:31 am to RedFoxx
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New Orleans would truly be one of the great cities of the world with just half decent leadership
leadership can only do so much
it's the population. same reason as why LA in general is dying and has no future. that population is why Nola gets its leadership, too
leadership can't fix the public schools
leadership can't fix the violence
those 2 things alone will always hold Nola (and LA, generally) back
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:48 am to boxcarbarney
My dad always told me once I’m older I’ll understand why he’s such a staunch republican. I see why now. These people are fricking idiots.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:03 am to RedFoxx
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New Orleans would truly be one of the great cities of the world with just half decent leadership. So much wasted potential.
this boards obsession with turning new orleans into something it will never be is certainly amusing. new orleans is a small boutique city where the main attractions are culture, events, and tourism.
it would be like people going to a dallas forum and attempting to argue it should turn into a tourist economy instead of tech and transportation
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:07 am to rocket31
yeah that's a good point. "the culture" of Nola celebrates how inefficient and suboptimal it is. that seems to be a major point of Nola itself. how is that going to compete with other cities who are much better at being productive? it's like the argument that Nola is safer than 20-30 years ago. no shite, EVERYWHERE is doing better and is safer than 20-30 years ago. that's not unique to Nola
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:12 am to SlowFlowPro
right, part of the reason people love to live in new orleans is because of debauchery and dysfunction.
ive argued for years that new orleans should have went all-in on tourism instead of pretending like the city has this "potential" to be something that it will never be. unfortunately, the city decided to cut back on short term rentals a few years ago instead of embracing them.
ive argued for years that new orleans should have went all-in on tourism instead of pretending like the city has this "potential" to be something that it will never be. unfortunately, the city decided to cut back on short term rentals a few years ago instead of embracing them.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:16 am to rocket31
New Orleans was once an equal to Atlanta and Houston, and in some people’s lifetime on this board. I think that is where people struggle with accepting that New Orleans is basically Charleston or Savannah.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:17 am to rocket31
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this boards obsession with turning new orleans into something it will never be is certainly amusing. new orleans is a small boutique city where the main attractions are culture, events, and tourism. it would be like people going to a dallas forum and attempting to argue it should turn into a tourist economy instead of tech and transportation
This is true, but I would also add:
The difference is that there used to be respect for the fundamental functioning and prosperity of the city.
The politicians of yore, while certainly corrupt, respected that balance between civil functionability and politics/graft. This new generation DGAF, and will do whatever, putting the interests of themselves ahead of the city as a whole.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:23 am to NIH
yea thats fair and i understand.
in my experiences, new orleans does only a few things well...but they do things better than most; celebrating the culture and charm and uniqueness needs to be the future, not this crazy idea that we can turn our demographics and population into the next tech and industrial hub of the south
in my experiences, new orleans does only a few things well...but they do things better than most; celebrating the culture and charm and uniqueness needs to be the future, not this crazy idea that we can turn our demographics and population into the next tech and industrial hub of the south
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 7:24 am
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:28 am to rocket31
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not this crazy idea that we can turn our demographics and population into the next tech and industrial hub of the south
i think the issue is that the city will have to contract with only the port and tourism, and nobody wants that legacy as a leader/politician. and the population doesn't want that because once that cycle starts, it's not easily controlled and you may end up MUCH smaller than you originally planned. then you get into all of the socio-economic issues like race and it's something that can't be discussed
kind of like your STR argument. they ran straight into a legit industry that employs tens of thousands in Nola (hotel-hospitality). of course the government is going to protect the hotels, which creates the issue you posted about. it's just a mess
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:43 am to NIH
New Orleans was booming earlier this year DESPITE the leadership. Imagine if we had somewhat competent leadership! It's still a great city, once it opens up, but destroya must be removed immediately. This city is a LOT more active than most and as far as comparing it to Atlanta and Houston remember this. Both of those cities can expand geographically which is NOT always a good thing. Secondly, BOTH of those cities had people who became PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THat's a huge bonus for areas. Cities that had residents become President always thrive for decades. It's one of the perks.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:51 am to boxcarbarney
Bandwidth exceeded? For a commercial account?
They didn't waste anytime killing that one.
They didn't waste anytime killing that one.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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of course the government is going to protect the hotels, which creates the issue you posted about. it's just a mess
Except cracking down on STR’s protects renters and homebuyers. Part of the reason for unaffordable housing in NOLA is STR companies buying up properties left and right. My neighbor gets $1,500/month for 800 sqft 1br condo with no parking...rent is crazy here.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 7:59 am
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:00 am to jordan21210
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Except cracking down on STR’s protects renters and homebuyers
without industry, there won't be renters and homebuyers
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My neighbors gets $1,500/month for 800 sqft 1br condo with no parking...rent is crazy here.
well yeah. just like the people talking about OM prices earlier in this thread. you get absolutely ripped off for what you pay in the Nola area, and you don't get that much in return. why i said in another thread this morning i'd pick lafayette over Nola and i hate lafayette.
Nola has terrible "bang for the buck"
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
What's OM?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:04 am to TigerstuckinMS
Old Metry
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:05 am to SlowFlowPro
But I think that explains the push for white collar tech jobs in the city. Housing costs too much and we have wage stagnation bc many jobs are service industry and hospitality. Need to attract some professional jobs with growth potential. I think it’s possible to have a successful industrial side with port jobs and also some more white collar tech jobs. The tourism was already there pre-covid and if things can get back to normal should mostly return. I think LA citizens have a jaded view of NOLA vs people from out of state and country. It’s got more tourist appeal than some give it credit for.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 8:06 am
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:12 am to jordan21210
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But I think that explains the push for white collar tech jobs in the city.
that was the push, but i think that peaked years ago and has decreased dramatically since. the article 08 posted was in 2017, so it likely was using 2016 data
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Need to attract some professional jobs
the issue is Nola fails at doing this b/c it's not attractive for most companies to move. that's why they're all moving OUT
to big companies (and their employees), Nola is a mid-small sized major city that has very expensive housing costs to go with historically shitty public school options and some of the worst per capita violence in the US.
why pick Nola over similar options? we're not even talking about major metro areas like Houston, Dallas, or ATL.
that's why Austin has had a legitimate tech industry develop and Nola has not. it may be expensive like Nola, but at least you can send your kids to good public schools and not worry about violence/crime.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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it's like the argument that Nola is safer than 20-30 years ago
I fricking love when people start posting graphs to try to argue this, like it suddenly makes NOLA a safe city because more people were murdered 20 years ago than now.
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