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re: Map showing % of children enrolled in Private Schools 1-12

Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:30 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:30 pm to
Why do so many liberals send their children to private school?
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:30 pm to
Episcopal.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:34 pm to
Gotcha. I thought it was about 16k?
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:36 pm to
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The idea is that hopefully by raising the quality/quantity of good students in our public schools, it will water-down the bad.


The reality is the opposite happens.
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:37 pm to
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So let me get this straight- you're blaming Louisiana's shite school system on the parents who choose to leave the school system???
Some parents don't send their children to a private school for anything other than a catholic/ Christian education. If La public schools became the Ivy League tomorrow my kids would still go to catholic school because my family values faith as much as math when it comes to education



I'm aware that the school systems suck. I pointed it out in the OP. If you had read it, you'd know that.

As another poster pointed out, it's really a chicken-or-the-egg question. I believe that we desegregation first came about, all the white families pulled their kids into private schools to keep little johnny from going to school with the blacks. As more and more white families didn't want their kids going to school with the blacks, the need for private schools increased. Since Louisiana is predominantly Catholic, they were able to make it seem less racist by using the religion excuse. More and more Sacred Hearts began popping up, which don't really do much more than public schools but have an all-white student body with parents who give a shite, so their scores are better, and they begin to look on paper like the reason they're doing well is because the private school system is good, when it's actually just parents who give a shite.

As generations did this, the public schools became filled with students whose parents didn't give a shite and began to spiral downhill. The same cycle continued and here we are today.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 9:41 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:40 pm to
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quote:
The idea is that hopefully by raising the quality/quantity of good students in our public schools, it will water-down the bad.


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The reality is the opposite happens.



Considering high achieving students are generally insulated in honors level or AP classes and not mixed in with lower achieving students, I'd have to respectfully disagree.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:40 pm to
I am in Lafayette. I have one in kindergarten and one in second grade. I get a small discount, so I pay roughly $1,650/month.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:40 pm to
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Do kids in Louisiana's public school system not stay together as they move from elementary to middle to high school?
When I was in the EBR system the answer was an emphatic no at lower grades (elementary and middle). At the high school level there seemed to be more allowance for attending the local high school. As I tried to point out, I had friends on the same street who attended different schools (and were bus'd a long way in some instances). Some parents decided at that point to go into the private school system.
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I mean, you may change buildings a couple times as you age, but the group of kids stays together from K-12 in the public system.
No, it didn't work that way. As I said, one kid may be at a local school and one right next door might be sent 45 minutes away.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:40 pm to
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Do kids in Louisiana's public school system not stay together as they move from elementary to middle to high school?


They used to. I think they just started letting kids choose whatever school in their town, or parish (we don't have counties) they want to attend, they can.

If the kid is a good athlete, the private schools, and some of the larger public schools recruit them.

Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:41 pm to
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Quit your bitching:
Baton Rouge High
Central
Zachary
Denham
Walker
Live Oak
Mandeville
Covington

...all PLENTY good enough to get your kid where they need to in life.

And most of which are probably far more academic and rigorous than say, Parkview or Dunham.
I’ve seen it.


So if your child was in the EBRSS if he/she couldn't get into a magnet school he/she were in trouble.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:43 pm to
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I am in Lafayette.

I was thinking the Episcopal in BR. It's the most expensive private school in the city. It's a great school though
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:46 pm to
There is a big difference in the academic rigor between some of the private schools in BR. Though that could take another thread on its own. A long one at that.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:47 pm to
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I was thinking the Episcopal in BR.


Nah, I moved out of that shithole a long time ago.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:47 pm to
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As more and more white families didn't want their kids going to school with the blacks, the need for private schools increased.
As a parent, I would think not wanting to bus my kid across town is a completely valid reason for sending them to private school instead. Painting racism with such a broad brush is not warranted.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:48 pm to
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So if your child was in the EBRSS if he/she couldn't get into a magnet school he/she were in trouble

We'd move back to the burbs if we had more kids or couldn't afford private. Sad answer but it's the truth. My kids education and safety is worth more to me than avoiding a 45 minute commute.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:50 pm to
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quote:
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As more and more white families didn't want their kids going to school with the blacks, the need for private schools increased.

As a parent, I would think not wanting to bus my kid across town is a completely valid reason for sending them to private school instead. Painting racism with such a broad brush is not warranted.


To be fair, I think his opinion speaks more to the origins of the private schools as opposed to the current state of affairs.

I don't think he is saying people send their kids to private schools today because of racism. I think he is saying today's public education status is a symptom of the racism-caused rise in private schools.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:52 pm to
I agree with that take. I firmly believe that the Baton Rouge Public School System went to shite back in the day because of the racism aspect. Half of the white families didn't want their kids going to school with blacks, and the other half didn't like the fact that their kids were being bussed halfway across the city to go to school with blacks.

This caused the money to come out of the public school system, in a few decades later we are stuck with this shite.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 9:54 pm
Posted by tiger114
Fairhope, AL
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:52 pm to
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There are decent options for public schools in Louisiana if you know what you're looking for. I sent my kid to McKinley. It's perfect for him. He wants to be a ufc fighter when he grows up


You have elevated your game so much lately. I am proud of you.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:54 pm to
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To be fair, I think his opinion speaks more to the origins of the private schools as opposed to the current state of affairs

He's not wrong. BR still had some decent public schools when I was in high school. They started declining after the desegregation order and forced busing in the 80s but it took a solid 15 years for all of the non magnets to go downhill. Most of the middle class and up moved to the burbs or put their kids in private school.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 9:54 pm to
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To be fair, I think his opinion speaks more to the origins of the private schools as opposed to the current state of affairs
Well, then are we saying that Catholic and other religious-based private schools originated due to racism? Of course race bias was (and is) always there, but the primary reason for religious-based private schools were to ensure religious education and indoctrination.

There were less than a handful of schools which absolutely were created due to racism, but they largely were (to my knowledge) not religious-based.
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