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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:11 pm to
We've got posters that think the state, parishes, and cities should get out of the education business. Be careful with the charters. Some of them aren't really giving great educations, but if your kids play ball, they'll keep them eligible.

Lots of folks in Louisiana do not support, or care about, it's public schools. It will never change because most of the state's elected officials are products of private schools.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:14 pm to
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Why are you laughing? I know that's not the case (that Louisiana residents don't pay school taxes if their kids go to private school).

I wasn't the one who madethe statement, though



Nobody in this thread actually said that.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:15 pm to
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My wife told me about a suburban Texas school that has so many Asians in it, the white kids left Bc they couldn’t compete academically. Forget the name of it


I think it's a school in Ft. Bend County. I know exactly what you are talking about.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:17 pm to
Really? I just looked it up, and using 2015 numbers, Louisiana spends $11,200 per public school student, while Texas spends $8,800.

LINK
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:19 pm to
Actually, you said that with the "not willing to put your money where your mouth is" by sending kids to private school.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:22 pm to
Louisiana has way way way more bureaucracy. For example , ISD Texas School Board is a ... Wait for it ... VOLUNTEER position. Meanwhile , we have LA school board administrators making bank and will continue to make bank on full retirement.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:24 pm to
I doubt paying school board members has anything to do with per-student funding, but ok.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:26 pm to
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Excuse my ignorance, but if Louisiana has a high percentage of kids in private schools then wouldn't that mean there is technically more money per kid in public schools? You can't 'opt' out of paying taxes that go towards the education system. Theoretically, if Louisiana has more money per student, then the education system should be fairing better?

No, because the funding is mainly driven by the state, it’s called MFP funds. The school system only gets the money for every student enrolled on October 1st of the school year. They don’t pro-rate it for the percentage of time the student is in a school, that’s to much common sense. If a kid goes to a charter, private school, or another district then moves into a district after October 1st the district gets no state funds for that student. This is why charter school drive enrollment so hard, after October 1st if the kid screws up they can kick the student out and retain the funding. The public school then gets the kid but no funding for them.

If you ever look into the Louisiana’s education system you can see all types of issues, that cause all types of problems. Our demographics put us at a disadvantage to begin with, but it doesn’t help that we screw it up even more with politics and stupid laws.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:28 pm to
Now that is definitely true, not enrolling your kid in public school costs the district money (it's called refined average daily attendance in Texas).
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33253 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:30 pm to
Just because it costs more, doesn't mean most people care. Louisiana spending more per student probably has more to do with schools being run less efficiently, than people caring more. The inefficiencies might be a product of the wealthier parents/better students attending private schools. It could even be corruption that isn't detected because parents that care, don't have kids in the public schools.

Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23479 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:32 pm to
Quit your bitching:
Baton Rouge High
Central
Zachary
Denham
Walker
Live Oak
Mandeville
Covington

...all PLENTY good enough to get your kid where they need to in life.

And most of which are probably far more academic and rigorous than say, Parkview or Dunham.
I’ve seen it.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:33 pm to
So what's the answer? More money? EvErything else is off the table. Is it hard to expel students in Louisiana? It is in Texas.

Truancy was decriminalized a few years ago in Texas because too many people of the wrong color were getting arrested.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:34 pm to
We all do.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:37 pm to

Actually, you said that with the "not willing to put your money where your mouth is" by sending kids to private school


Please link the quote where I said people who send their kids to private schools don’t pay taxes on public schools.

What I was saying was in response to the OP who wants the government to force private school parents to put their kids in public schools to make them better, but is unwittingly to put his own kids in said public schools.

I told him to “put his money were his mouth is”. And put his kids in LA public schools.

How stupid are yo to misconstrue that as a claim that private school parents don’t pay taxes???



This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:41 pm to
I never said that. So what do you mean? They pay taxes, yes, but the schools don't get the per-student state funding?

If you meant the latter, I apologize. But they are still paying taxes, friend.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 8:41 pm
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
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Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:43 pm to
Where is the map that shows Louisiana last in most measurable for public schools?
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:43 pm to
So in essence we have people on here saying more money isn't the answer, then decry lack of per-student funding tied to kids going to private school.

So yes, apparently more money is your answer.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 8:46 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:47 pm to
This thread has really been fascinating. It kind of blows my mind to see how K-12 public education is viewed in Louisiana (from reading the posts in this thread).

In my opinion, it appears to be more of a culture issue. The private schools have taken all of the decent families out of the public system and has become entrenched. Public education will never improve because none of the good families appear to want to be the first to take the plunge.

Private schools where I am are very few in number and cater really only to the upper class. The rural areas still have some segregation academies.

The public high school I went to was about a 50/50 split racially. It included a cross section of wealth. It had trash, it had fights, but it also had a lot of achieving students who have gone on to do great things. Hell, I think it did a lot of good for everyone to be around all that diversity.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 8:50 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61276 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:49 pm to
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Private education will never improve because none of the good families appear to want to be the first to take the plunge.


I'm confused.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:50 pm to
Fixed.
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