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Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:20 pm to Rebel
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Because there is one less legal hurdle to worry about
But about 50 more like paperwork, taxes, licensure, etc. Easier to weed out issues.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:21 pm to Rebel
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He has a “roommate”.
Not for three years. I live with my fiance.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But about 50 more like paperwork, taxes, licensure, etc. Easier to weed out issues.
Isn't it amazing that when you switch the topic to prostitution, all of a sudden government regulations facilitate business instead of impedes it to so many people who would normally identify as right-wing
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I live with my fiance
First Milo, and now you??
I’m so proud of you. Let me know when you set the date.
Maybe we can get some legal whores for the bachelor party.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:25 pm to efrad
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Isn't it amazing that when you switch the topic to prostitution, all of a sudden government regulations facilitate business instead of impedes it to so many people who would normally identify as right-wing
The regs inhibit business
They just also inhibit trafficking, theoretically and logically at least
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:41 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Doesn’t that just prove there is a large number who don’t too much care about the current legal impediments?
good analogy is weed in SOCAL
weed became legal but only through dispensaries and it is heavily regulated and taxed, legal weed is super expensive
legal regulated farmers grow weed, sell percentage to legit dispensaries and the rest out the backdoor for cash, coupled with mexican weed this creates massive gray market
the gangs get out of weed distribution because gray market sells for cheaper than dispensaries and it is too prevalent to compete, gangs focus on heroin, meth and coke
weed is now everywhere, cops stop busting gray market because it isnt worth it
gray market flourishes, dispensaries are for tourists and the gangs bring in more heroin, meth and coke to compensate for lost weed business
weed (legal and illegal) is now everywhere and very little of it is regulated
I am envisioning SFP’s buddies at LCPD and CPSO regulating whorehouses, would be a great reality TV show
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:47 pm to tigergirl10
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tigergirl10
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What kind of loser is paying for sex with a stranger who has God knows what kind of diseases?
Walt would.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:18 am to SlowFlowPro
It is legal where I live ,but obviously it is regulated and controlled. That being said with the way New Orleans and many other urban areas are managed I have no faith that they would be able to legalize prostitution with any sort of intelligence or competence.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:30 am to supatigah
The problem with your analogy is what you are talking about (your product) is a thing and slow’s is people. I’m not seeing a great sea change of people becoming his product over a simple change in legal designation.
Not all skanks are really itching to become true hoes.
Not all skanks are really itching to become true hoes.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:39 am to efrad
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Isn't it amazing that when you switch the topic to prostitution, all of a sudden government regulations facilitate business instead of impedes it to so many people who would normally identify as right-wing
I’m pretty sure government regulations are a tad bit less of an impediment than out right banning through legislation.
This post was edited on 3/12/21 at 10:43 am
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:53 am to SlowFlowPro
hmm this is a tough one, do I: downvote for mandie or upvote for freedom for whores? downvote for mandie
This post was edited on 3/12/21 at 5:58 am
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:54 am to Y.A. Tittle
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The problem with your analogy is what you are talking about (your product) is a thing and slow’s is people. I’m not seeing a great sea change of people becoming his product over a simple change in legal designation.
Not all skanks are really itching to become true hoes.
my analogy is not in favor of SFP’s point, perhaps I was not clear
by legalizing weed in CA they created opportunities for far more illegal weed to be sold openly
they also caused a shift from gangs selling weed to moving even more hard drugs
there would be more illegal prostitution if prostitution is legalized
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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“Right now, people who are victims of trafficking or witness trafficking are afraid themselves to go to law enforcement because they might be arrested for it,”
Can someone give a real world example of this?
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:00 am to supatigah
i think it's more likely that the shift in black market behavior wouldn't be to increase prostitution. you're not even really arguing that. you're arguing when weed became legal, they shifted into another are entirely (other drugs).
the corollary is that is black market prostitution took a hit, the response would be investment in another arena of the black market, not doubling down on the black market that has a legal counterpart.
and i will just say again, that the black market won't die out. there is still a black market for weed in CA b/c of the regulations/taxes, but it's just not as dangerous of filled with organized crime like it was previously. there will still be backpage girls who aren't licensed and that creates an environment will trafficking will still exist
also let me say one other thing just so that people understand the whole picture. regular prostitution can now be "trafficking" with how they are redefining the laws. the reason the government is doing this is to make actual trafficking perceived as a bigger threat than it actually it by creating more raw numbers. think of it how autism exploded when they expanded the characteristics of the spectrum. ironically, this is because the state/LEO knows it's losing the WOD (due to legalization efforts) and needs a new boogeyman to keep the civil asset forfeiture money rolling.
we just had a discussion on here about this a couple weeks ago when there was a thread on a teen allegedly being sex trafficked and her parents went to Nola (or something) to get her.
the corollary is that is black market prostitution took a hit, the response would be investment in another arena of the black market, not doubling down on the black market that has a legal counterpart.
and i will just say again, that the black market won't die out. there is still a black market for weed in CA b/c of the regulations/taxes, but it's just not as dangerous of filled with organized crime like it was previously. there will still be backpage girls who aren't licensed and that creates an environment will trafficking will still exist
also let me say one other thing just so that people understand the whole picture. regular prostitution can now be "trafficking" with how they are redefining the laws. the reason the government is doing this is to make actual trafficking perceived as a bigger threat than it actually it by creating more raw numbers. think of it how autism exploded when they expanded the characteristics of the spectrum. ironically, this is because the state/LEO knows it's losing the WOD (due to legalization efforts) and needs a new boogeyman to keep the civil asset forfeiture money rolling.
we just had a discussion on here about this a couple weeks ago when there was a thread on a teen allegedly being sex trafficked and her parents went to Nola (or something) to get her.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:02 am to moneyg
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Can someone give a real world example of this?
you think most prostitutes can admit to hooking without facing repercussions from LEO? in some more urban areas? it's possible. in bumfrick LA? you know what kind of shite can happen when sex workers go to LEO?

Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:04 am to fightin tigers
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Probably still wants to prosecute the Johns in some manner
Only the white ones.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
They are just looking to tax another industry. Once this happens, they will pass this cost on to their customers. The consumer always pays in the end! 
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
let me re-frame this again
1. legalization created MORE illegal activity
2. cops gave up trying to stop illegal activity
3. regulations and taxes causedlegal prices to skyrocket
4. suppliers focus as much on gray market as they do legal market
5. black market forces shift to far worse things
6. normalization causes tourists to pay legal premiums but locals buy gray market prices
so for prostitution
1. legalization makes it more common and socially/culturally acceptable
2. cops go from clear laws to enforce to much more difficult laws to enforce
3. regulations cause prostitution prices in the legal market to skyrocket
4. human traffickers have more patrons in more places with higher prices to charge in gray market and black market and LEO struggling to regulate or outright giving up regulating
5. gray market and black market needs more girls and boys to meet increased demand spurred from legal market normalization
gray market = licensed houses running unlicensed girls/boys on the side
black market = completely illegal operations with trafficked boys/girls
before you say this wont happen, this is exactly what happened in Nevada and why their human trafficking issues are so bad for a non-border state
1. legalization created MORE illegal activity
2. cops gave up trying to stop illegal activity
3. regulations and taxes causedlegal prices to skyrocket
4. suppliers focus as much on gray market as they do legal market
5. black market forces shift to far worse things
6. normalization causes tourists to pay legal premiums but locals buy gray market prices
so for prostitution
1. legalization makes it more common and socially/culturally acceptable
2. cops go from clear laws to enforce to much more difficult laws to enforce
3. regulations cause prostitution prices in the legal market to skyrocket
4. human traffickers have more patrons in more places with higher prices to charge in gray market and black market and LEO struggling to regulate or outright giving up regulating
5. gray market and black market needs more girls and boys to meet increased demand spurred from legal market normalization
gray market = licensed houses running unlicensed girls/boys on the side
black market = completely illegal operations with trafficked boys/girls
before you say this wont happen, this is exactly what happened in Nevada and why their human trafficking issues are so bad for a non-border state
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