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re: Man who recorded Arbery shooting arrested on charges including felony murder

Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:49 pm to
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You have an unarmed man with nothing in his hands jogging down a street. Getting out of a truck displaying a shotgun towards him is not reasonable force towards aunarmed maybe trespasser.


Jogging....good luck with that in court. He fled the scene of a potential crime. He attempted to elude a lawful citizens arrest. He was in the building illegally. If he was doing nothing wrong why did he not just walk out and say hey… I was just checking the place out? Or getting a drink of water? As some have said. You might want to stop with the he was jogging bullshite because that ship has sailed.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:50 pm to
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He attempted to elude a lawful citizens arrest.


Oh so you're tactic is to just ignore the facts that don't line up with your feelings.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3264 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:50 pm to
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I'm going to say we almost certainly know even this didn't happen. McMichael saw him running down the street while standing in his front yard and immediately called to his son to grab his gun and let's go

I thought I read the guy across the street with the security cam told them someone was there? But I've read so much other wrong info in these threads i may be getting that mixed up with the facts
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:50 pm to
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Jogging....good luck with that in court. He fled the scene of a potential crime. He attempted to elude a lawful citizens arrest. He was in the building illegally. If he was doing nothing wrong why did he not just walk out and say hey…


This is when they will call you racist and trash. When they can no longer spin the narrative to angel just out jogging.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:52 pm to
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I’m not defending shite.

It’s just odd that you keep saying this while arguing that they will get off.
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Just shoving the whole hunted down jogging race masturbaters back in your face!

Also odd that you keep saying this despite being the main one bringing up race.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41936 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:53 pm to
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I thought I read the guy across the street with the security cam told them someone was there?


I haven't seen that. It wouldn't really change anything, legally speaking. But if that's the story going forward, then why did McMichael omit that from his statements to the police and instead talk about how they had seen him on past videos?

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:53 pm to
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It’s just odd that you keep saying this while arguing that they will get off.


Never said this for the McMichaels. But this stupid charge this thread is based off of doesn’t stand a chance.

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Also odd that you keep saying this despite being the main one bringing up race.


This entire case is about race. And be certain, I didn’t start it!
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:54 pm to
Why did you say you used to be a contractor?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:55 pm to
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then why did McMichael omit that from his statements to the police


This lawyer still believes a police report is the end all be all in a courtroom!
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:56 pm to
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Why did you say you used to be a contractor?


Come down to New Orleans. I’ll buy you a beer and show you the job sites.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:57 pm to
Lol....Let’s just see how this plays out. I’m not the racist redneck that you are picturing in your mind rather someone who is looking at this without regard to emotion or color…just giving consideration to the facts before me.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6541 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:59 pm to
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Jogging....good luck with that in court. He fled the scene of a potential crime. He attempted to elude a lawful citizens arrest. He was in the building illegally. If he was doing nothing wrong why did he not just walk out and say hey…


This is when they will call you racist and trash. When they can no longer spin the narrative to angel just out jogging.



...or ya know people dont think its reasonable To chase someone down and draw weapons on someone for a misdemeanor crime that wasn’t even witnessed by the vigilantes. The point is mcmichaels crew didnt have any direct knowledge of a felony. That is a fact, according to mcmichaels own statements. Doesnt matter if he did trespass, a misdemeanor doesnt warrant a citizens arrest. May have not been racism, but is 100% trash.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:59 pm to
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Let’s just see how this plays out. I’m not the racist redneck that you are picturing in your mind rather someone who is looking at this without regard to emotion or color


Not going to work with this mob. You MUST bend the knee or be shouted down!
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41936 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:00 pm to
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Lol....Let’s just see how this plays out. I’m not the racist redneck that you are picturing in your mind rather someone who is looking at this without regard to emotion or color…just giving consideration to the facts before me.



Has anyone called you or insinuated that you were a racist redneck in this thread?

You clearly aren't giving consideration the facts in front of you because you made up facts to fit your predicted outcome. You claim that the McMichaels witnessed him commit a crime. We know that that is false. Why do you ignore this point? Is it because it blows your whole argument apart? Let your emotion go and look at the actual facts.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 10:02 pm
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3264 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:01 pm to
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someone who is looking at this without regard to emotion or color…just giving consideration to the facts before me.
But every time you are corrected on what you think are the "facts" of the case you just go to
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Lol....Let’s just see how this plays out
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:02 pm to
Well, I certainly know where you stand.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6541 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:02 pm to
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just giving consideration to the facts before me.



Then why do you consider a misdemeanor Justification for a citizens arrest, given the fact that a citizens arrest requires direct knowledge of a felony occurring (also consider the fact that mcmichaels did not have knowledge of a felony occurring)?

Seems like you disregard some important facts before you, because you have been corrected on this multiple times.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122548 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:03 pm to
And lets not forget, "hauling arse" is relative. Not that it made a difference, but it would have made more sense if they saw him "hauling arse" and there was someone chasing him yelling "stop that man". But they just saw him running. So the first thing the old man though to do was get his son, arm themselves, get in the truck and go chase him down? How are people even trying to defend that?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41936 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:03 pm to
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Well, I certainly know where you stand.


And it appears we know where you stand. In the face of facts disproving your argument, you just ignore them.


Not a good look tbh.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:03 pm to
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...or ya know people dont think its reasonable To chase someone down and draw weapons on someone for a misdemeanor crime that wasn’t even witnessed by the vigilantes.


We know one side of the story at this point. But I agree no one wants that.

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The point is mcmichaels crew didnt have any direct knowledge of a felony.


Again, we don’t know everything. But it’s plausible the McMichaels only a few houses away were either called or saw something or heard it from another neighbor. Officer Trash even texted English about the neighbors knowing and getting together on it. So, the day it happened, maybe they were just ready.

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That is a fact, according to mcmichaels own statements.


Police reports can be misleading as well.

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Doesnt matter if he did trespass, a misdemeanor doesnt warrant a citizens arrest. May have not been racism, but is 100% trash.


If everything comes out the way you claim; yes, trash will be a great description.

But I’m going to let it play out in court, get all the facts before I hang someone for what the media wants me to believe and by statistics just isn’t true.
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