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re: Man who recorded Arbery shooting arrested on charges including felony murder

Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:25 pm to
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someone that spent his early years in and out of prison


Link?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:27 pm to
So you are a general contractor and an engineer? Impressive?
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:28 pm to
Did he run away from or towards the truck? Did he attack someone who was lawfully trying to perform a citizens arrest ? The media wants to make this like this young man was simply jogging through the neighborhood and a couple of good old boys decided to pick off a black man with their shotgun like they were sitting in a tree stand hunting deer. That ain’t how this went down. All three will walk and the charges will be dismissed.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3264 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:29 pm to
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At what point was the trigger pulled ?

After they chased him in a truck with guns drawn, but before he attempted to disarm younger baw. Right around the time younger baw came around the front of the truck to cut him off with a shotgun at point blank range
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:29 pm to
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So you are a general contractor and an engineer? Impressive?


Correct. Why would I want to pay an engineer to stamp my plans?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:30 pm to
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I wonder why they don’t start threads like these with their outrage. Black man beating white men and women in their beds at nursing home.

Maybe you should start one. It probably wouldn’t go for 10 pages though, because you wouldn’t have some neckbeard with a victim complex arguing that the black guy was innocent.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3264 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:30 pm to
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good old boys decided to pick off a black man with their shotgun like they were sitting in a tree stand hunting deer.

Nah, more like they were hunting deer out of a moving vehicle from the road...oh wait, that's illegal too
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38394 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:31 pm to
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Based on what? I’m actually interested to hear a theory where this is justified.



Unfortunately, the theory where a large segment of the local population that will fill a jury look and act like the McMichaels. All they need is one fellow croc wearing neckbeard on the jury
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:31 pm to
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Bring the gun to school
Shoplifting
Trespass

Just a gud baw jogging.


I'm from Arizona and have only spent a short visit in the South. I enjoy a lot of this board, like the H&F board and there are some cool people.

You've spent pages defending something indefensible and acting like this some political litmus test instead of a human being being gunned down dead.

All your posts about Arbery's past do is show you can't see a video in front of your own eyes for your agenda. It's like the worst stereotypes I hear about the South in a pages long anger crusade.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:32 pm to
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After they chased him in a truck with guns drawn, but before he attempted to disarm younger baw. Right around the time younger baw came around the front of the truck to cut him off with a shotgun at point blank range


The fact that they pursued him is completely irrelevant . They were performing a lawful act of investigating and pursuing a citizens arrest. Not one shot was fired until he charged and tried to disarm the shooter. No different then a police officer pulling the trigger when someone is trying to take their weapon.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:32 pm to
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Maybe you should start one. It probably wouldn’t go for 10 pages though, because you wouldn’t have some neckbeard with a victim complex arguing that the black guy was innocent.



I’ve only argued the merits that this is a race hustle. And you have fallen for it.

AGAIN
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:32 pm to
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Correct


That’s odd . You have repeatedly referred to yourself as a former contractor and said I used to be a general contractor after Katrina. So you are back at it?
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8796 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Yeah. In all of the other videos he didn’t seem like a young angry black man who had a problem with authority.


What authority did they have?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24879 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Did he attack someone who was lawfully trying to perform a citizens arrest ?

I feel like some of you who keep repeating this are doing it intentionally even though it’s been clarified numerous times that, according to Georgia law, they had no right to do a citizens arrest
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109033 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Did he attack someone who was lawfully trying to perform a citizens arrest ?


No. Because it wasn’t a lawful citizens arrest. He had to knowingly commit a felony for them to attempt to detain AND pursue by Georgia law. As listed on the police report, Arbery committed misdemeanor criminal trespassing at worst.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3264 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:35 pm to
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The fact that they pursued him is completely irrelevant

Wrong
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They were performing a lawful act of investigating and pursuing a citizens arrest.
Georgia law states you're wrong
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No different then a police officer pulling the trigger when someone is trying to take their weapon.
you could not be more wrong
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:35 pm to
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I’ve only argued the merits that this is a race hustle. And you have fallen for it.

AGAIN

I said it in another thread and you ignored me. So I’ll say it again:

Either you think the McMichaels are guilty and you’re just trolling everyone over race, or you think they are innocent and you’re hiding behind the “muh white guilt” narrative like a coward.

So which is it? Do you think the McMichaels should walk or not?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38394 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:36 pm to
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I'm from Arizona and have only spent a short visit in the South. I enjoy a lot of this board, like the H&F board and there are some cool people.

You've spent pages defending something indefensible and acting like this some political litmus test instead of a human being being gunned down dead.

All your posts about Arbery's past do is show you can't see a video in front of your own eyes for your agenda. It's like the worst stereotypes I hear about the South in a pages long anger crusade.


unfortunately there are a lot of people like Errerwere down here, which is why the south leads in obesity and illiteracy, etc. But his breed is fortunately dying off faster than they can reproduce.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:36 pm to
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No different then a police officer pulling the trigger when someone is trying to take their weapon.

Uh.. there’s one pretty big difference.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87749 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:37 pm to
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The fact that they pursued him is completely irrelevant . They were performing a lawful act of investigating and pursuing a citizens arrest. Not one shot was fired until he charged and tried to disarm the shooter. No different then a police officer pulling the trigger when someone is trying to take their weapon.



Under certain circumstances you lose the privilege of self-defense and arguably pointing a gun at a guy for no reason is one of those circumstances. You can also regain the ability to use deadly force in self-defense, but I'm not sure that occurred here.

I won't be surprised if once we get into the details the McMichael's defenses improve, but I think that is going to have more to do with intricate matters of timing and the like rather than any new revelations about the McMichaels or Arbery.
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