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re: Man Who Put His 89-Year-Old Mother’s Body in Freezer for 3 Years While Collecting Her Pens

Posted on 4/18/26 at 5:47 am to
Posted by Harlan County USA
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 5:47 am to
I actually receive a percentage of my mother's pension. She was divorced and I'm her only child. She was in Kentucky Teachers Retirement. She chose to take 66% after her retirement and deferred the rest to me after her death. It's not much but it helps with college for my youngest.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 6:46 am to
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Harlan County USA


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Kentucky Teachers Retirement.


Where Kentucky politicians got it right!



Where they got it wrong was at the Federal level with Social Security

If one spouse has KTR, they can not benefit if the other spouse has Social Security at their death. Democrats never addressed it when they were in power. Republicans are even more resistant now they have monopoly power in both houses. It hits a lot of Kentuckians when you have a teacher and say a cop couple.



If your mom was a teacher, thanks for her service from the people she touched directly and indirectly.

Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:14 am to
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NawlinsTiger9


Nice
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:18 am to
How’d he get caught
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:28 am to
So the body was 92 years old when found
Posted by TygerLyfe
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:28 am to
Man, that's cold
Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:36 am to
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Where they got it wrong was at the Federal level with Social Security If one spouse has KTR, they can not benefit if the other spouse has Social Security at their death. Democrats never addressed it when they were in power. Republicans are even more resistant now they have monopoly power in both houses. It hits a lot of Kentuckians when you have a teacher and say a cop couple.



I think they fixed this in 2024.

Former Congressman Garret Graves pushed for this and they supposedly eliminated the windfall elimination penalty.


Which is what got a lot of government sector workers and their spouses if the spouse did not work in government when one or the other passed.

The penalty was why I knew of a lady that worked at a school for years after her husband passed so she could collect his social security, even though she was well past retirement age.

At least with the Louisiana teachers retirement system, it is not like social security which just pays out as you or your spouse are living. Your beneficiaries can receive what is left after taking out what was paid during retirement.

For example, let’s say someone retires after 30 years and “paid” 200k into the system with a payment of 2k a month (just using round numbers, so lighten up on the math, Francis). They die a year after retirement and elected to not pass monthly payments on to a spouse. The beneficiary which could be anyone would receive the remaining 174k.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 7:39 am
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 7:59 am to
No options to descendants. Not how pensions work.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:00 am to
I don't see the big deal.

When they sous vide her, she will be good as new.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:03 am to
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While I’m not disagreeing, you are most likely being extremely disingenuous with their payouts in the fact that they are likely so terrible that no one chooses them. You can’t just have a pension pay out forever, the math simply doesn’t work unless the payout is dogshit.




There are many different options. You can take a reduced annuity and your beneficiary will get 50%, 75%, or 100% of your annuity for their life. Your annuity amount is calculated based on your age and on your beneficiaries age and the annuity option you choose. It really doesn’t matter if it’s your wife ( you could die at 70 and have a 40 year old wife) or your 40 year old son who gets it. People do choose these options but they aren’t as popular as a standard annuity.
This post was edited on 4/18/26 at 8:05 am
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:03 am to
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How’d he get caught


Quit paying subscription to HowToFreezeYourMotherToStealPension.uk

Kidding

His frozen Mom’s Dr got suspicious after not seeing her for a long while.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:05 am to
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your beneficiary


Spouse

Not just anyone. SS would have dried up many years ago if open season on beneficiaries.

Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:07 am to
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Congressman Garret Graves


Louisiana, correct?

If he did, good for him, but poster I was responding to was in KY. The Teachers Retirement is state, not Federal, so wondering if what Congressman Graves did in 2024 was state specific (especially as Louisiana was the only state in the country to root in France law, than English law).

If it wound up being accepted over all 50 states, good for the Congressman. If it was an exception for a single state, the struggle is still there.

It cost former candidate Kelly Craft (R) a shot at the governor office in KY doing the "purple hair" teacher ad from a national company. Presuming teachers in KY were young, liberal, and had purple hair. The reality was middle age to seniors, conservatives, and the older ones were "blue hairs". She went from probable first place to last place overnight and the ads did not even run long before they were pulled.

Problems with outsiders running elections and marketing for said elections is not understating "boots on the ground" voters.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:08 am to
PS, thank you for taking the time and thought to post a better understanding of the issue.

Posted by SUB
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:20 am to
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Spouse Not just anyone. SS would have dried up many years ago if open season on beneficiaries.


I’m not talking about SS
Posted by Junkyard Hog
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:36 am to
That’s one way to freeze the account
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:41 am to
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I’m not talking about SS


Sorry, coffee just reaching brain receptors.

Surprised if many pensions would be open season on beneficiaries allowed, even with haircuts (50%, etc), by same math depletion curve.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12725 posts
Posted on 4/18/26 at 8:56 am to
It is nation wide.

SSA.gov

The link is to social security which explained the process of calculating the penalty, but at the top it says that it was signed into law Jan. 5, 2025 making the data out of date.
Posted by LSUwag
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:07 am to
It’s surprising how often these cases happen. I had a man on Federal Probation where he and his elderly father agreed that upon his death would be buried in the back yard and a concrete slab poured over top of him so his son could collect his military pension. He collected it or close to 20 years until an audit realized that the guy was over a century old and they looked into it.

Lots of other cases of SS not being cut off when Grandma dies and their deadbeat adult kids keep cashing those checks.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
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Posted on 4/18/26 at 9:29 am to
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In my opinion as long as my kid didn’t murder me I wouldn’t mind if they collected the money. I’m dead I’m not gonna know what’s going on


This is, how I similary feel.
The goverment takes so much from you, and just waste it.
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