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re: Man vs. German Shepherd - Fight to the death - Who wins?

Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by dkreller
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:48 pm to
Easily done while he's clamped down on an arm or your neck.
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Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:16 pm to
The only chance I would have is to try to spread my arms out and look big while screaming at the top of my lungs. If that doesn't work, I will just lay down and give him my neck so as to make it quick.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:18 pm to
I once saw a video clip of a K9 going after a swole up dude. The dude spun around allowed the dog to grab his forearm then promptly broke the dogs neck. Crazy shite.

The cops were not so gentle with said meathead.
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:44 pm to
German Shepherd not even a big fight..now a big pit..game on
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:38 pm to
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Easily done while he's clamped down on an arm or your neck.


Also if a hand is in their mouth. Pulling back is every instinct but push. Shove that hand as far down as it will go. fricker will let go. If you feel something to grab in there pull. Could really frick a dog up with an arm in a chest cavity. Said arm with be in the dogs esophagus but it goes through chest.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:19 pm to
My dogs about 80 pounds. Half doberman so a natural fighter like German Shepards. We play fight and wrestle all the time. Obviously he doesn't put pressure when he bites me in those situations, but he does use his full strength and speed. He's strong enough to knock a man the size of the OP down and even pull one down with his leash if you're not expecting it. He's slippery AF but I'm definitely strong enough to subdue and hold him down after a fight. I'm confident that I'd be strong enough to subdue and crush the life out of a dog only 10 pounds bigger than mine
Posted by Eternally Undefeated
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:42 pm to
It's impressive to see the number of studs on here who flippantly think that they would be successful against an attacking German Shepherd. I get that any of us might ourselves become adrenaline filled if we realize that our lives are at stake. But, I see a dog that big biting so quickly that no one would have a viable chance to shove one's hand down the throat and/or lift the dog and hurl it to the ground. I think one would be in significant pain pretty quickly out of the block.

Now, I do think that I could defeat a toy poodle in a battle to the death. Even then, I suspect the little sucker would have bit me to pieces before I am finally able to take him out.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7236 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

It's impressive to see the number of studs on here who flippantly think that they would be successful against an attacking German Shepherd. I get that any of us might ourselves become adrenaline filled if we realize that our lives are at stake. But, I see a dog that big biting so quickly that no one would have a viable chance to shove one's hand down the throat and/or lift the dog and hurl it to the ground. I think one would be in significant pain pretty quickly out of the block.

Now, I do think that I could defeat a toy poodle in a battle to the death. Even then, I suspect the little sucker would have bit me to pieces before I am finally able to take him out.




Surely your husband would save you though
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:04 pm to
Bro, no doubt he'd shred you up before it was over and you'd need a shite ton stitches and likely even some cosmetic surgery .... but in a fight to the death with a creature half your weight or less an able bodied man should absolutely be able to kill the dog before he kills you
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47807 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:22 pm to
German shepherd would win most of the time. Man is no longer bred to fight a beast to a battle to the death.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:27 pm to
I don't believe this for a second. Some of you are wildly underestimating the strength and speed of an attacking dog.

He clamps down on one artery and it's fricking over, no way you're choking out something that strong while you're bleeding out.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:37 pm to


Is a German Shepherd tougher to beat than this shepherd... or that sheep?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47807 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:43 pm to
A ram can frick you up. A 200lb ram is like someone pummeling you with a post with a couple of hundred lbs behind it.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

I don't believe this for a second. Some of you are wildly underestimating the strength and speed of an attacking dog


Not at all. As I stated above my dog is an 80 pound doberman mix. I spent thousands on a professional guard dog classes. He would attack anybody I told him to on command.

As part of the classes, before we ever started the trainer wants people to know what you'd be unleashing on other people. To demonstrate he put me in one of those big Kevlar suits you see in police training videos. He had his own personal 120 pound Rottweiler (33% larger than the dog mention in OP) attack and latch on and take me down.

I rough house with my own trained dog almost daily to keep his skills sharp, and he's close to the size of the dog mentioned in OP.

I know fully well what an attacking dog is capable of and what I'm capable and I'm telling you that I may be in the hospital when it's done, but Im going to kill a 90 pound dog before it kills me. Remember OP stated 90 pounds, we aren't talking some giant mastiff.


And if you think it'd be that easy for a dog to get your throat before you could neutralize it or inflict serious damage then you underestimate your own human reflexes and instincts
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:22 pm to
Better question two Shepherds v. man.

Answer- The two Shepherds

Also, a Shepherd will kick a Muslim's arse


This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 9:28 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:54 pm to
In most cases a extremely fit guy wouldn't lose to a GS. Severely injured maybe but not lose. But some regular guy off the street isn't a guarantee at all to be able to kill a full grown GS.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47807 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:59 pm to
I have a anatolian shepherd, which is the american version of a turkisk kangal. kangals are said to have the strongest bite of any dog... over 700 psi per square inch. my dog makes a german shepherd look tiny and the turkish kangals are a good bit bigger.



Ive seen videos of this breed fighting and it isnt pretty. Their long limbs are used as leverage and they throw whatever they are fighting around pretty easily.

I just dont think people engage in battle enough anymore to take on a wild beast in a battle to the death.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:28 pm to
I think most guys should be physically capable, but I think the main thing is settling in to do the things that would be necessary. Like gouging eyes or rippin at throat or smashing the head against concrete or whatever brutal shite might be necessary to put the attacking dog down. Seems a little too gnarly for me to carry out sitting here thinking about it, but I would think and hope that tune would change with my life on the line.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 10:37 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

I just dont think people engage in battle enough anymore to take on a wild beast in a battle to the death


Okay but OP specifically stated a 90 pound dog. You're posting about two breeds that can grow to a healthy 150-180 pounds. That is a HUGE difference. Obviously an animal like that could kill an unarmed human

OP also specifically stated a 6'3" 230 pound man. 90 pounds is also on the larger end of the spectrum for a healthy grown male GS. An average grown male GS that isn't overweight is closer to 75 pounds.

A 230 pound man, especially one like Tebow who the OP posted as reference, is much stronger than any 75-90 pound dog. And that's before testosterone kicks in and you're fighting for your life.

Sticking strictly to the scenario laid out very specifically in the OP, the 6'3" 230 pound man should be able to kill the 90 pound dog. And not only kill the dog but do it without ever truly being in danger of losing his life, although there would be injury. Unless the man is some uncoordinated dunce.

Everybody keeps trying to wildly deviate from the laid out scenario to justify the dog winning, but we're talking about something very specific.
It's also easy to tell the people who aren't dog owners because some in here are trying to attribute almost superhero like abilities to dogs when it just isn't like that. Those people clearly have some type of dog fear they need to work out.


And think about this, when is the last time you heard of a LONE dog around the size of a GS killing a full grown and health man? You probably haven't. You see videos of dogs like that attacking people all the time and taking them down, and they're fully capable of that, but the person always is able to fight off the dog and get away.
Police use German Shepards to take people down, but you'd be surprised how many get killed in the line of duty by men with their bare hands when they decide to fight back because they don't want to go to jail. I know the family of a man in my town who got chased into the woods and killed two police dogs with his hands before he was taken down, albeit that guy was a roid head and he also sent a couple cops to the hospital.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39634 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

It's also easy to tell the people who aren't dog owners


I own a 90-pound dog, actually, but he's way too gentle to imagine fighting.

I have played with him and seen him when he starts to get a little too rough - he's much slower than a German shepherd and most people still wouldn't have a chance.

Block that first bite with your arm and it probably gets broken and severely lacerated. Then you're in a fight with something stronger and faster than you, only you have one arm and you're losing blood fast.

If you think you're going to choke slam a pissed off German shepherd to death with one arm, or choke it out while you're hemorrhaging blood, then I don't know what to tell you.

Could you win? Sure. But not most of the time, that's just silly.
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