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re: Man urinates on the altar in St. Peter's Basilica
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:47 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:47 pm to FooManChoo
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Actually no, I didn't. I don't know how many times I have to say that I don't condone it, but I'll say it again. He shouldn't have urinated on the alter.
Yeahhhhh try to walk that back baw.
ETA: 24:1 downvote to update ratio. That hurts.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 9:50 pm
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:49 pm to gaetti15
quote:I said in another post I regret saying what I said because it wasn't gracious.
Yeahhhhh try to walk that back baw.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:50 pm to FooManChoo
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said in another post I regret saying what I said because it wasn't gracious.
Its alright man. Go to confession. Partake in the Eucharist and you good.
ETA: oh shite sorry forgot nvm
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:53 pm to gaetti15
quote:I don't need to do good works to be made right with God. I am already justified by what Christ has done.
Its alright man. Go to confession. Partake in the Eucharist and you good.
I repent of my lack of graciousness and will attempt to not be that way going forward. That's enough. I don't need Catholic superstition.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:57 pm to FooManChoo
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I don't need to do good works to be made right with God. I am already justified by what Christ has done.
This is true. Christ and Christ alone. Not Christ plus... anything.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:00 pm to gaetti15
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Yeah, plus you really wanted to be that person who pissed on the altar
i should not have laughed at you for this but I did lol
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The thing I latch on to the most is your view of the gospel, which is that faith alone does not justify anyone, but good works are meritorious and add to justification.
I believe that is a false gospel. Do you think I don't understand that particular taeching?
Notice the King doesn't say "inherit the Kingdom because of your faith." He says, "inherit the kingdom because of your feeding the hungry et al."
Matthew 25, in the parable of the final judgment:
quote:
34 Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,
I'm sure that the anti Catholic population will find a way to twist that into salvation by faith alone, but whatever.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:02 pm to FooManChoo
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I believe that is a false gospel. Do you think I don't understand that particular taeching
Ok Foo I admit I’ve been enjoying yanking your chain.
I hold no ill will.
Listen closely to what I am about to say.
The schism between the CC and the E. Orthodox Church is mostly semantic and high church theology that means nothing compared to the Gospel Christ preached.
Likewise the difference between the Catholic and Protestant understanding of justification is so subtle that it make no practical difference in the way most people live their faith. IMO
IMO we both follow Christ and we should work together against the true enemy.
I am not your enemy and you are not mine.
In truth I wish that guy would have pissed on the pope instead of the altar.
God bless you for speaking up for Christ .
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:02 pm to MemphisGuy
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This is true. Christ and Christ alone. Not Christ plus... anything.
Idk what the issue is. I convince my sins to Christ in confession and the Eucharist is his flesh and blood.
ETA: shite man I keep on forgetting.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:08 pm to gaetti15
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I keep on forgetting.
forgetting what?
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:14 pm to TrueTiger
Love how the security guys are trying to drag him away without getting “down range”. 
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:15 pm to FooManChoo
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eaches a false gospel and leads many astray
Let me guess you think we pray to saints and Mary.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:20 pm to Guntoter1
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Likewise the difference between the Catholic and Protestant understanding of justification is so subtle that it make no practical difference in the way most people live their faith. IMO
IMO we both follow Christ and we should work together against the true enemy.
I am not your enemy and you are not mine.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:22 pm to FooManChoo
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I don't need to do good works to be made right with God. I am already justified by what Christ has done.
You dont NEED to but Jesus would WANT you to.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:25 pm to memphisplaya
quote:Do you not?
Let me guess you think we pray to saints and Mary.
I know it's official teaching that it is good to call upon the saints for their intercession, and that prayer is the way to call upon them.
If you are encouraged to call out to the saints for help, and the way you do so is through prayer, how can you not be encouraged to "pray to the saints and Mary"?
What else would you say that it is?
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:27 pm to SirWinston
quote:Please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that I don't need to do good works at all. I'm just saying I don't need to do them to be made right with God.
You dont NEED to but Jesus would WANT you to.
My justification is by what Christ has done alone, not by what I do.
But with that said, I agree that we were created for good works, so I should do them out of thankfulness and obedience to my creator and savior. I'm just differentiating between works of merit vs. works of gratitude.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:37 pm to RAB
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I once had a Palestinian in plain clothes take my phone on the Temple Mount
What other clothes would a Pali be wearing in Jerusalem?
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:40 pm to MemphisGuy
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forgetting what?
Speaking to prots baw
Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:47 pm to Longhorn Actual
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What other clothes would a Pali be wearing in Jerusalem?
Maybe a cleric? Jordanian guards typically guard the site, not some dude wearing an Adidas shirt.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:15 pm to FooManChoo
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Why don't you address my comment about your logical fallacy? That is something that actually speaks to the truth.
What logical fallacy? That your Presbyterian off-shoot sect has only 10,000 members and NONE in the State of Louisiana? That's a fact. That's not fallacy.
What does that tell us? It tells us that you belong to a sect that is practically non-existent, which people should take into consideration when you preach here on Political Talk.
You belong to a tiny off-shoot of the Presbyterian Church, which itself is an off-shoot of the Church of England. Your tiny off-shoot believes in Double Predestination and that the Universe is only 6,000 years old. People should take that into consideration before they take your opinions seriously.
You would be simply ridiculous if you weren't such a bigot.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:26 pm to Champagne
quote:Here is the logical fallacy: you are saying that the number of members of my denomination is an indicator of whether or not we have right theology.
What logical fallacy? That your Presbyterian off-shoot sect has only 10,000 members and NONE in the State of Louisiana? That's a fact. That's not fallacy.
What does that tell us? It tells us that you belong to a sect that is practically non-existent, which people should take into consideration when you preach here on Political Talk.
You belong to a tiny off-shoot of the Presbyterian Church, which itself is an off-shoot of the Church of England. Your tiny off-shoot believes in Double Predestination and that the Universe is only 6,000 years old. People should take that into consideration before they take your opinions seriously.
You would be simply ridiculous if you weren't such a bigot.
As stated previously, this is the argumentum ad populum fallacy. You are saying that truth is based on numbers.
I already addressed this multiple times. If this were true, Islam would be considered the right religion because there are more Muslims than Catholics.
It is clear that you don’t have a winning argument theologically, because when push comes to shove, instead of criticizing any of my particular beliefs, you criticize the number of members of the denomination. Thats absolutely weak and irrational, and I think you know that, which is why you refuse to acknowledge it.
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