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re: Man urinates on the altar in St. Peter's Basilica

Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53601 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:48 pm to
Foo has your particular denomination of Presbyterianism gone defunct due to lack of members? Is THAT why you can't tell us the name of your particular sect/denomination?

Last I checked, you didn't even have a church anywhere in the State of Louisiana. There WAS one in southwest Louisiana but it closed years ago.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 7:49 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:51 pm to
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Foo has your particular denomination of Presbyterianism gone defunct due to lack of members? Is THAT why you can't tell us the name of your particular sect/denomination?
Why don't you address my comment about your logical fallacy? That is something that actually speaks to the truth.
Posted by Mellow Drama
Making Groceries
Member since Aug 2020
4656 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:55 pm to
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Give it a break.


I'm sure the Irish begged Oliver Cromwell to give it a break, too.

I don't condone pissing on his grave. ETA: and I would NOT understand pissing on his grave. I'm sure evil spirits haunt and swoop over it so I'd stay the heck away. I'll leave the pissing to the dogs.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 8:12 pm
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18897 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:55 pm to
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I don't condone such behavior, but I understand it. The place is a monument to idolatry, and iconoclasm has a long history.


You’re complicit
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 7:56 pm to
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You’re complicit
How? I don't know the person who did it and don't support it.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17471 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:03 pm to
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Catholics have their issues now with wokeism but I still respect many things about them


Yeah the churches that aid and house illegals are great
Posted by Mellow Drama
Making Groceries
Member since Aug 2020
4656 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:06 pm to
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quote:
Catholics have their issues now with wokeism but I still respect many things about them


Yeah the churches that aid and house illegals are great


the bishops got too used to the government gravy train. never get in bed with the government.

ETA: pissing on the altar in St. Peter's is disgusting.
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 8:07 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67504 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:20 pm to
Your post is so ridiculous that no response is necessary…
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1580 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:26 pm to
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. You belong to a church that teaches absolute exclusivity, and anyone not a member of Rome is outside of salvation.


So do you lol.
Anyone who does not accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior is lost.
You are such a hypocrite.
Posted by TheOldMan
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2022
665 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:27 pm to
Cut his pecker off!
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:31 pm to
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So do you lol.
Anyone who does not accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior is lost.
You are such a hypocrite.
No, I believe salvation is exclusive to the gospel of Jesus Christ, while Rome (and the EOC, by the way) teaches that salvation is exclusive to your own respective church organization.

I'm Presbyterian, but I believe there are Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Anglicans, and so on that have the gospel and will be saved. I don't claim that my denomination has exclusive rights to the gospel like Catholicism does.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1580 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:35 pm to
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I'm Presbyterian, but I believe there are Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Anglicans, and so on that have the gospel and will be saved. I don't claim that my denomination has exclusive rights to the gospel like Catholicism does.


Your belief system is exclusive, stop denying it
It is exclusive to Christians only
That’s exclusive, whether you know it or not.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:37 pm to
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Your belief system is exclusive, stop denying it
It is exclusive to Christians only
That’s exclusive, whether you know it or not.
Every truth claim is exclusive. I wasn't saying that any form of exclusivity is wrong, but that the RCC teaches that she alone possesses the gospel and salvation.

The gospel is exclusive, but Rome goes beyond that by adding exclusivity beyond that.
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1580 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:42 pm to
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Every truth claim is exclusive. I wasn't saying that any form of exclusivity is wrong, but that the RCC teaches that she alone possesses the gospel and salvation.


You teach the exact same thing.
Anyone who does not submit to your form of Christianity cannot be saved.

You are no different from the Catholic Church. You exclude other Christians that don’t subscribe to your form of Christianity. That’s exactly what the Catholic Church does.
You are guilty of the same sin you acuse the CC of.
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
1838 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:45 pm to
If you guys dont agree with Foo, just dont respond. He has been trolling like this a long time.

He isnt having an honest discussion or debate, he is a clown looking for a stage. Dont give him one. Ignore him.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13733 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:48 pm to
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Anyone who does not submit to your form of Christianity cannot be saved.


The ONLY form of Christianity is that you have to have a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ and accept Him as your Lord and Saviour... there are no other forms of Christianity. There are no other paths to Heaven. There are no other stipulations or requirements... nothing. I think even Catholics would accept that...
This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1580 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 8:54 pm to
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he ONLY form of Christianity is that you have to have a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ and accept Him as your Lord and Saviour... there are no other forms of Christianity. There are no other paths to Heaven. I think even Catholics would accept that...


I make no claim to judge who will or will not be saved.
Christ and Saint Paul make it abundantly clear that this judgement it reserved for Christ alone.
The church has a claim to make these decisions as well but me and Foo have no claim to such authority.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13733 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:04 pm to
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I make no claim to judge who will or will not be saved.

Nor do I. I make no claim to judge who does or does not have a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. I make no claim to judge who has or has not accepted Him as their personal Lord and Savior.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:08 pm to
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You teach the exact same thing.
Anyone who does not submit to your form of Christianity cannot be saved.

You are no different from the Catholic Church. You exclude other Christians that don’t subscribe to your form of Christianity. That’s exactly what the Catholic Church does.
You are guilty of the same sin you acuse the CC of.
That's not true at all.

I believe the gospel is that we are sinners deserving God's wrath, and He sent His Son, Jesus, to obey the law perfectly and to die the death of a sinner in our place, and if we believe upon Him by faith alone, we will receive forgiveness for our sins.

Anyone who trusts in Jesus Christ alone for the forgiveness of their sins may be saved. You don't have to be Reformed Presbyterian like me to be saved. You can have a lot of error in your theology and still be saved as long as you have the gospel.

That is not what Rome teaches.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45785 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:11 pm to
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I make no claim to judge who will or will not be saved.
Christ and Saint Paul make it abundantly clear that this judgement it reserved for Christ alone.
The church has a claim to make these decisions as well but me and Foo have no claim to such authority.
I make no claim of judgement on any particular person's salvation; only God knows the heart.

However I can judge a teaching according to the Bible. If someone claims to be trusting in Allah or Buddha, or their own good works to be right with God, I can see that is wrong according to the Bible, and therefore I can call them to repent and believe in Jesus Christ for salvation.
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