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re: Man sentenced to jail for filming accident scene
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:37 pm to Who Me
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:37 pm to Who Me
From what I understand about part of the story was that one of his charges was vehicle trespass. He opened the door to the vehicle to gain access. The other charge was disorderly conduct I believe.
i think that the vehicle trespass charge would be the main one they could get him on.
There are Good Samaritan laws that exist to protect people from being charged or held liable for entering a vehicle in emergency circumstances to render aid. They key part is that the person would have to be attempting to render aid which he was not.
i think that the vehicle trespass charge would be the main one they could get him on.
There are Good Samaritan laws that exist to protect people from being charged or held liable for entering a vehicle in emergency circumstances to render aid. They key part is that the person would have to be attempting to render aid which he was not.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:39 pm to Who Me
Guy seems trashy. I think the only way I would move an accident victim is if the car was on fire.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:40 pm to zacata88
quote:I'm sure there are plenty of people who've never heard of Neil Young
very few people have heard of the rare and oft-unmentioned Neil Young
Judging from posts on various online forums, there are people who'd never heard of the late Mr. Bowie
About 10 years ago I met a college age chick who'd never heard of U2
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:04 pm to TigerFred
Yeaya! Please tell me he didn't yells"Word Star!!!!"
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:05 pm to slackster
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From what I understand this was the motivation of the DA, but he seems to have been charged for trespassing for opening the back door of the car just to get a better video. He also called the kids idiots while he filmed one of them die.
If this is the same case I am thinking of, the guy impeded the responders too while he was trying to film. He then went to the family of the dead kid or the other kid and tried to get them to sign a waiver for his right to film the accident in exchange for his testimony that something happened to cause the accident and the family told him to frick off.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:05 pm to Kafka
He could have pled that he was intoxicated. No Good Samaritan Law wants a drunk to render aide.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:47 pm to lsu480
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Was this the dude who talked shite to them instead of helping them? If so I don't feel bad for him.
So now we are required to try and help, and if we make a mistake while trying, we can be sued, or soon they will find a way to put you in jail for that as well.
We are becoming a nation that jails people that do things that offends our sensibilities.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:48 pm to matthew25
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He could have pled that he was intoxicated.
Yeah, maybe he was drunk at the time. But then explain this from the article:
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Additionally, the station reported that an investigation revealed Pelton contacted at least two news organizations and tried to sell the video.
So even after he would have sobered up, he was still a mega-douche that deserves all the jail time he gets.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:53 pm to novabill
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So now we are required to try and help, and if we make a mistake while trying, we can be sued, or soon they will find a way to put you in jail for that as well.
No, dumb arse. Where'd you get this? Did you even read the article? Guy arrives on scene before first responders, gets out of his car, pulls out his cell phone and starts filming an accident as someone is dying in front of him. He then trespasses into the car while calling them "idiots" and does not offer any assistance. He then tried to sell the video to two news stations.
At no point was he legally compelled to render first aid and that's not why he's going to jail.
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We are becoming a nation that jails people that do things that offends our sensibilities.
You're doubling down on stupid, aren't you?
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:57 pm to novabill
No we are expected not to get in the way of first responders, increasing the risk to other people being seriously harmed. There's also a little thing called common human decency. Get the frick out of here with that shite.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:02 am to Who Me
I didn't realize you were legally obligated to help out.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:03 am to Pelican fan99
You aren't.
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The Lorain Police Department would like to remind citizens that they are allowed and encouraged to help one another in emergencies if they can do so safely, and that rendering aid or comfort to a dying young man and his severely injured friend is a commendable and kindly act. Persons are not, however, allowed to trespass into a person's vehicle criminally and without permission for the seemingly singular cause of filming, a young man's dying moments, for profit.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:05 am to Who Me
That's how Seinfeld, Elainne, George and Krammer were sent to jail for a year. Good Samartain law.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 12:06 am
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:06 am to ClientNumber9
I did read the article. He was jailed because the judge was offended at what he did, that is why the judge wished he could have sentenced him for a longer period.
If he had gotten in the way of emergency personnel you would think he could be charged with much more. However, he is charged with something that would not be criminal had he done it for another reason.
The guy is a jerk, and were that my kids in the car, he would likely have more to worry about than 30 days in jail.
If he had gotten in the way of emergency personnel you would think he could be charged with much more. However, he is charged with something that would not be criminal had he done it for another reason.
The guy is a jerk, and were that my kids in the car, he would likely have more to worry about than 30 days in jail.
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Persons are not, however, allowed to trespass into a person's vehicle criminally and without permission for the seemingly singular cause of filming, a young man's dying moments, for profit.
[quote]Persons are not, however, allowed to trespass into a person's vehicle criminally and without permission for the seemingly singular cause of filming, a young man's dying moments, for profit.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:09 am to Pelican fan99
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I didn't realize you were legally obligated to help out.
As said above, you aren't.
However, if you don't help then you shouldn't have your slimeball arse inside of the car taking a video.
That being said, the article and the story have been sensationalized for viewers with the insinuation that he was arrested/jailed for failing to help when in was actually disorderly conduct and vehicle trespassing.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:15 am to novabill
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He was jailed because the judge was offended at what he did
No. He was jailed for disorderly conduct and criminal trespass. Show me the statute of "being offended" the judge used.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:20 am to ClientNumber9
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Show me the statute of "being offended" the judge used.
he was jailed for the reason that he went into the car, not for going into the car?
Posted on 1/21/16 at 12:25 am to novabill
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he was jailed for the reason that he went into the car, not for going into the car?
WTF did I just read?
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