re: Man Demonstrates A Big Flaw In 911's Jet Fuel Argument

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Yes, not believing liars makes me an idiot. Brilliant.



Who do you believe?

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I'll try to make this as brief as possible.

Russia had already tried to capture Afghanistan and we fought with the terrorists to boot them out. Then we went in to take what Russia was after - trillions in untapped natural resources; billions(/trillions) in poppies; a central bank; and one of the many puppets in the region that had gone rogue, forming an oil bourse that threatened the dollar.

Afghanistan, and subsequently Iraq, were used as the base to infiltrate the Middle East and remove the rogue puppets (Hussein, Qaddafi, Assad, etc.) thus saving our currency while bringing those banks in line with the international banking cabal.

However, the American people would never back such a plan unless something happened to move them in that direction.

The PNAC document, produced by the leading neocons of the day, mapped out the strategy to remain the world's superpower. In it was described the tedious task of moving the American people towards accepting such an agenda.

It said that the process would be a long one, and I quote, "absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

A year later, 9/11 happened and the agenda was kicked off.

Who did it and how they did it, we'll probably never know, but that's one hell of a coincidence. I believe that powerful globalists are far more calculating than lucky.

That's it in a nutshell.

Your paranoid delusions are worse than I thought.

Seek help NOW before you hurt yourself of someone else.

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Your paranoid delusions are worse than I thought.

Seek help NOW before you hurt yourself of someone else.

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I've already asked you who you're seeing. But you won't answer. I get the feeling you're not as concerned about me as you let on.

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Russia had already tried to capture Afghanistan and we fought with the terrorists to boot them out.

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They weren't terrorists when we were helping them

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t's funny because you were using it as a gotcha moment, when in fact there was a time when most people believed it, so it was true, even though it wasn't.

You're too stupid to see the irony, but as usual the level of ignorance on TD is highly entertaining.

Thank you for that.

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That's some twisted arse logic man.

***insert mind blown gif***

The USSR was in Afghanistan to prop up their puppet state. Whether or not they extracted billions or trillions of dollars (rubles?) in poppies and minerals, I can't say.
The U.S., through the CIA and Pakistani ISS, got involved with the "terrorists" strictly to frick with the Soviets. The typical U.S. citizen didn't give a shite about Afghanistan in the mid/late '70s and probably couldn't find it on a map with three chances. D.C. didn't care either, but saw an opportunity to give the USSR a little payback for supporting North Vietnam. Of course, the "terrorists" weren't terrorists at the time, because we were funding and arming them. They were "freedom fighters" and they were fighting as our proxies.

Charlie Wilson's War is an entertaining book and gives a good overview of how a Congressman from Texas was able to escalate a foreign conflict beyond what the CIA had originally intended. Ghost Wars is a more scholarly review, covering the time period from the Soviet invasion up until 9/11.

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Russia had already tried to capture Afghanistan and we fought with the terrorists to boot them out.


They weren't terrorists when we were helping them
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That's a matter of semantics. Did the British consider the Irgun to be terrorists when they were raising hell in the Palestinian Mandate? Were they terrorists when they bombed the King David Hotel?

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I don't know if that answers your question or not.

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We are getting closer, I guess.

I just simply want to know who and what you trust as factual information.

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The typical U.S. citizen didn't give a shite about Afghanistan in the mid/late '70s and probably couldn't find it on a map with three chances. D.C. didn't care either, but saw an opportunity to give the USSR a little payback for supporting North Vietnam.

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We have spent 14 years (and counting), gone hopelessly into debt, and lost thousands of lives to "give the USSR a little payback?"

Umm, no.

I agree with everything you said TX Tiger so keep preaching. Some of these folks forgot this is how you win Monopoly... By owning and controlling everything.