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re: Man Arrested for Rape of an 18 Year Old Woman; Thoughts, BR?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
quote:Shitfaced drunk puking while you're having sex is fun for you? Sounds strange but whatever you're into man
Wow. Glad I wasnt you in college
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:26 am to Poncho
All this situation does is confirm my reluctant views on not fricking drunk chicks. Sucks but it's better than being accused of rape.
Get with the times.
Get with the times.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:27 am to lsupride87
quote:Dude read the LA laws regarding rape and you'll (hopefully) be able to understand why I said 'no'. I've spelled it out in previous posts, but it has to do with defining when sexual acts with an intoxicated person are considered sexual assaults/rapes. There's a certain standard applied that the scenario you proposed would not meet.
So a woman can have sex with a non-consenting male?
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 9:27 am
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:27 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:You are right. Most college hookups usually start with a glass of wine and nice meal at Jubans.
Shitfaced drunk puking while you're having sex is fun for you? Sounds strange but whatever you're into man
No, it starts with 10-15 blue shots from Reggie Club out of a plastic medicine dispenser shot glass.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:27 am to lsupride87
quote:
bullshite. Absolute bullshite. Maybe not your biology
So you're telling me that when you were blackout drunk and puking, you've been able to have sex?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:28 am to Chuker
quote:I 100% agree. I would never frick a girl I'd just seen throw up. Not even just because I'm concerned it would be rape. Why would you frick a chick so drunk that she's vomiting? That's a terrible idea.
All this situation does is confirm my reluctant views on not fricking drunk chicks. Sucks but it's better than being accused of rape.
Get with the times.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:29 am to NIH
quote:
And if he wasn't?
that would be rape...but are we to expect a 20 year old should know how drunk someone is?
If she drank as much as she said and smoked weed I would think he was in the same condition as she was. Also I don't get how she remembers what she had to drink but not the act.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:29 am to lsupride87
quote:lol you couldn't get laid in college unless you and the girl were both hammered
You are right. Most college hookups usually start with a glass of wine and nice meal at Jubans.
No, it starts with 10-15 blue shots from Reggie Club out of a plastic medicine dispenser shot glass.
My condolences bro
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:29 am to Oates Mustache
quote:Im telling you we can go to Reggies tonight and I will show you 15 guys that will be blackout shitfaced that will.
So you're telling me that when you were blackout drunk and puking, you've been able to have sex?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:29 am to meauxjeaux2
Wtf 
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:30 am to Topwater Trout
quote:Yeah if you see a girl vomiting because she's so drunk you should probably know that she's too drunk to have sex.
that would be rape...but are we to expect a 20 year old should know how drunk someone is?
This is not an unreasonable standard at all.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 9:30 am
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:30 am to Poncho
This is a really creepy thread by OP
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:31 am to JodyPlauche
quote:According to her own claims of being unable to recall events it is possible she may have told her sex partner to "do me like a porn star." If she had done so, was it rape, forced sex or even non-consensual sex? All I know for certain is both parties acknowledge they had sex that night.
Being raped is not "Having Sex"! You might want to phrase it as "forced sex" or "Non-consensual sex"
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:31 am to Oates Mustache
quote:
Wtf
is there a problem?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:33 am to Topwater Trout
Uhh yes
Most kids in Louisiana have been drinking since 14-15, it's pretty reasonable to think he knew she was incapacitated.
Most kids in Louisiana have been drinking since 14-15, it's pretty reasonable to think he knew she was incapacitated.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:33 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:Of course if you are in a state of mind that allows you to notice/deduct this. However, very often, I would say the heavy majority of times, both parties are wasted
Yeah if you see a girl vomiting because she's so drunk you should probably know that she's too drunk to have sex.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:35 am to Poodlebrain
quote:Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the standard in LA for "simple rape" is this:
According to her own claims of being unable to recall events it is possible she may have told her sex partner to "do me like a porn star." If she had done so, was it rape, forced sex or even non-consensual sex? All I know for certain is both parties acknowledge they had sex that night.
§43. Third degree rape
A. Third degree rape is a rape committed when the anal, oral, or vaginal sexual intercourse is deemed to be without the lawful consent of a victim because it is committed under any one or more of the following circumstances:
(1) When the victim is incapable of resisting or of understanding the nature of the act by reason of a stupor or abnormal condition of mind produced by an intoxicating agent or any cause and the offender knew or should have known of the victim's incapacity.
(2) When the victim, through unsoundness of mind, is temporarily or permanently incapable of understanding the nature of the act and the offender knew or should have known of the victim's incapacity.
(3) When the victim submits under the belief that the person committing the act is someone known to the victim, other than the offender, and such belief is intentionally induced by any artifice, pretense, or concealment practiced by the offender.
(4) When the offender acts without the consent of the victim.
B. Whoever commits the crime of third degree rape shall be imprisoned at hard labor, without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence, for not more than twenty-five years.
C. For all purposes, "simple rape" and "third degree rape" mean the offense defined by the provisions of this Section and any reference to the crime of simple rape is the same as a reference to the crime of third degree rape. Any act in violation of the provisions of this Section committed on or after August 1, 2015, shall be referred to as "third degree rape".
Acts 1978, No. 239, §1; Acts 1990, No. 722, §1; Acts 1995, No. 946, §2; Acts 1997, No. 862, §1; Acts 2001, No. 131, §1; Acts 2001, No. 301, §1; Acts 2003, No. 232, §1; Acts 2003, No. 759, §1; Acts 2010, No. 359, §1; Acts 2015, No. 184, §1; Acts 2015, No. 256, §1.
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So the questions in this case are whether the alleged victim was capable of resisting or understanding the act, and whether the alleged offender knew or should have known of the alleged victim's incapacity.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 9:36 am
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:36 am to Hog on the Hill
As I said on page 1, does anyone else find it at all odd that she can clearly recall all aspects that support the rape charge but can't remember anything else?
Remembers the exact type and number of drinks? Hell, I lose count after the third beer. Remembers being sick, remembers her friends, remembers telling him no. Can't remember anything else. Weird. What about the lead up to sex? What was said? Was there any consensual contact? Etc.
Remembers the exact type and number of drinks? Hell, I lose count after the third beer. Remembers being sick, remembers her friends, remembers telling him no. Can't remember anything else. Weird. What about the lead up to sex? What was said? Was there any consensual contact? Etc.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:36 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:If I was the accused, I would counter sue with the exact same claim.
So the questions in this case are whether the alleged victim was capable of resisting or understanding the act, and whether the alleged offender knew or should have known of the alleged victim's incapacity.
ETA: If I was wasted as well. If sober, then I agree it is a POS move
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/18/16 at 9:37 am to Hog on the Hill
quote:
Yeah if you see a girl vomiting because she's so drunk you should probably know that she's too drunk to have sex.
I have seen people throw up and go right back to partying. I wasn't one of them. Luckily I only got that way a few times.
My problem with the whole scenario is if he was impaired also. We are talking about 2 people who have had sex and were obviously out together(leads me to believe they were on good terms. I would love to know what their relationship was like after the "rape"
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