re: Making A Murder O-T Lounge Thread

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I put myself in the defendant's shoes and would hope I would get treated more fairly than that. Too much shady actions on the prosecutions side for my taste.

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Well I don't throw cats on fires and jack off on moving cars so empathize with him, I can't.

You're right.

I can agree with your opinion. My stance is that he is guilty. Like I said just my opinion, no need for name calling.

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I still can't get over how the cop called in the plate #, like he was sitting behind it, 2 days before the car was "found" and had no explanation while on the stand.

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as to why he froze up on the stand, i agree it is telling, but if she was reported missing on Nov 2nd or 3rd, the cops would definitely have her plate number for the searching. It would be easy for him to have the number and not actually be reading it from the car. he also called it a '99 Rav4, so it seemed like he was reading from the registration data base more than the car itself. it explains why he would have it, and not be on the property.

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as to why he froze up on the stand, i agree it is telling, but if she was reported missing on Nov 2nd or 3rd, the cops would definitely have her plate number for the searching. It would be easy for him to have the number and not actually be reading it from the car. he also called it a '99 Rav4, so it seemed like he was reading from the registration data base more than the car itself. it explains why he would have it, and not be on the property.

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It's more difficult to figure out the license plate from a vehicle a missing person owns than it is to figure out the owner of a vehicle.

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he was reading from the registration data base more than the car itself. it explains why he would have it, and not be on the property.

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Why bother doing that?

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. he also called it a '99 Rav4, so it seemed like he was reading from the registration data base more than the car itself

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Seems like an easy enough thing to just say instead of having no explanation.

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But in reality it probably was a murder by Steve on his own property when he was scheduled to be the last person to see her then burned her body on his property and hid her car crudely on his property.

That is the work of a dumbass.

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How is it a work of a dumb arse when the police had to plant evidence and coerce Brendan to get a guilty verdict? Without those two key pieces, the "dumbass" walks.

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Why bother doing that?

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i have no idea, i thought it was strange as well, just giving a reason as to why he would have the number and not be at the location of the vehicle

They wanted to have their cake and eat it too (pinning it both on Avery and Dassey).

Brendan's account of what happened was not substantiated in any way with the physical evidence. Not one iota. The fact that he's in jail is sickening. He might have been there at some point or been involved, but there's no proof at all, let alone beyond the shadow of a doubt.

Avery I'm not sure about, but it didn't go down the way the prosecution says it did. Most likely the murder happened somewhere else, he transported the body in the Rav4 (hence her blood in the back which makes zero sense if she was killed in the trailer/garage and burned just outside.

It may have even happened at the secondary burn site by Avery and Dassey. But there wasn't proof of that. I think she as burned at the second site, no doubt. You don't bring two scraps of bone if you are trying to dump the remains even if you're a half wit.

The lack of murder weapon (they determined she was shot because of the skull fracture, not buying that), lack of motive, and basic lack of all pertinent physical evidence with the story that they told was very telling and its why people are so up in arms.