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re: Major airline disaster in South Korea, plane crashes with 181 passengers aboard...
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:02 pm to 0x15E
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:02 pm to 0x15E
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complete hydraulics failure then they were flaps zero.
Didn't see flaps down either but FYI, alternate flap extension is electrical...no need for hydraulics.
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:03 pm to 0x15E
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Boeing isn’t the only manufacturer that has accidents
In reality, there is no comparison between the two events. One was a natural occurrence and the pilot was able to save everyone.
The other MAY have started as a natural occurrence, but landing gear failing this badly is either pilot error or a manufacturer issue.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:07 pm to imjustafatkid
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The other MAY have started as a natural occurrence, but landing gear failing this badly is either pilot error or a manufacturer issue.
Thanks for proving my point
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:09 pm to jcaz
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Looks like they lost the ability to lower the gear for landing and landed going very fast which suggests hydraulic failure.
Alternate gear extension is a gravity drop. No need for hydraulics to extend the gear. A bird strike could have damaged the nose gear doors in such a way to prevent the extension. The main gear on the 737 doesn't have doors.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:12 pm to aileron
Loading Twitter/X Embed...
If tweet fails to load, click here. Looks like the right engine is what took the bird strike
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:12 pm to aileron
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alternate flap extension is electrical...no need for hydraulics.
But as another poster stated, only to 15-degrees. I’m not well-versed on flap speed range for 15-degrees but it seems as if it wasn’t enough to really slow them down.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:17 pm to aileron
I think we should take Occam's Razor to heart when discussing Korean airlines and Korean pilots. Korean's are the God's of CFIT. They possess an unholy talent for destroying perfectly fine aircraft.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:19 pm to OchoDedos
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I think we should take Occam's Razor to heart when discussing Korean airlines and Korean pilots. Korean's are the God's of CFIT. They possess an unholy talent for destroying perfectly fine aircraft.
People got mad when I said Asian pilot error.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:24 pm to RollTide1987
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Apparent hydraulic failure of the landing gear due to a bird strike.
Ohh sure, sureee.
The one that went down over Kazakhstan was a “bird strike” as well.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:26 pm to dnm3305
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:29 pm to beebefootballfan
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beebefootballfan
That air Canada (regional affiliate not AC) aircraft is a Dash 8, they’ve had landing gear problems since they came off the assembly line.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:33 pm to beebefootballfan
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Air Canada flight 2259 lands with broken landing gear mere hours after a BOEING 737 crashes in South Korea
ACA2259 is a *checks notes*
de Havilland Dash 8-400
How can this be???
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:39 pm to beebefootballfan
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:46 pm to 0x15E
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I’m not well-versed on flap speed range for 15-degrees
For the 737-800 flaps 15 airspeed limit is 200kts. Compare that to 162kts for flaps 40 and 250kts for flaps 1.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:55 pm to aileron
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For the 737-800 flaps 15 airspeed limit is 200kts. Compare that to 162kts for flaps 40 and 250kts for flaps 1.
How slow could they have theoretically flown that approach with flaps 15?
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:57 pm to BRIllini07
LINK
Very similar situation with this plane crash. Belly land after a go around with only 2 survivors
Very similar situation with this plane crash. Belly land after a go around with only 2 survivors
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:58 pm to beebefootballfan
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God damn so many events this week.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:58 pm to 0x15E
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Are those bottom range numbers?
Upper limit. Slowest speed is the stall speed.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 12:13 am to aileron
A lot going on here. Gonna wait for blancolirio’s take.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 12:15 am to aileron
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For the 737-800 flaps 15 airspeed limit is 200kts. Compare that to 162kts for flaps 40 and 250kts for flaps 1.
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aileron
Checks out
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