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re: Luigi Mangione, 26, apprehended in Altoona, PA about UnitedHealthcare CEO murder

Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:22 am to
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27478 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:22 am to
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They didn’t have cameras to see which bus he got on.
you don't think these busses and bus stations have cameras?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12414 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:24 am to
The early reporting was that they didn’t see on video how he left the bus station.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:25 am to
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Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12414 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:26 am to
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you don't think these busses and bus stations have cameras?


Probably at the main entrance, maybe not to the individual busses. The greyhound busses probably do not have cameras themselves.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12414 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:27 am to
And maybe it’s not so quick and easy like CSI tv shows like to portray it.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:28 am to
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Also, people are really thinking just because he is very intelligent that he would be better at getting away with this. He was intelligent, but he clearly had a psychotic break and wasn't of sound mind anymore. A lot of brilliant people lose their minds.



Well, just speaking in terms of the getaway, very few people can adequately plan for how they'll deal with being the target of a large-scale manhunt.

Has to be incredibly stressful, I'm sure he'd barely slept since last week. Reality sets in that you're never going back to a normal life. Even if you had everything planned out at some point fatigue sets in and you stop thinking clearly.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 11:33 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20346 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:29 am to
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You need to be driving home the fact that we know this patsy's entire life story less than 24 hours after he was apprehended, but we don't know a damn thing about the piece of shite who attempted to assassinate a former and future president months ago.



Because this guy has a lengthy resume and was an "elite". He was valedictorian, popular, rich, well-educated, lived all over the world, and had a massive online presence on twitter, facebook, book reviews, linkedin, company websites, siblings social media, friends social media, etc.

And the idea we know nothing about Thomas Matthew Crooks is a fallacy. There is just less to know. The guy was a loser who did nothing with his life and never left where he was from. I'm sure his only "friends" were anonymous online gamers.

His entire bio on wiki is all there is to know about the loser.

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Thomas Matthew Crooks was born on September 20, 2003,[2] and grew up in Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, south of Pittsburgh.[4] Both of Crooks's parents are licensed professional counselors.[5] Recollections about him, including information about his life and personality, vary considerably.[6]

He attended Bethel Park High School.[7] He attempted to join the school's rifle club, participating in "preseason", but was such a bad shot he was considered "dangerous", being rejected from the team and asked not to come back.[8][9] He joined the National Technical Honor Society in 2021 while a junior in high school.[10] In 2022, he graduated with high honors and won a $500 "star award" from the National Math and Science Initiative.[11][12][13]

Classmates and school officials characterized him as being quiet; classmates said that he was often bullied for various reasons[2][3][12] including his quiet demeanor, body odor, as well as for wearing camouflage hunting outfits and surgical masks to school.[2][14][15]

He earned an associate degree in engineering science from the Community College of Allegheny County in Pittsburgh, graduating two months before the shooting. He was employed as a dietary aide in a nursing home at the time of the shooting.[16][17][18][19] According to the nursing home, which is less than a mile away from where he lived, he had passed a background check and "performed his job without concern".[20] He had been accepted into both the University of Pittsburgh and Robert Morris University in Moon Township, Pennsylvania northwest of Pittsburgh and planned to attend the latter.[20][21]

He had a membership at a local shooting club for at least a year.[18]

Prior to the shooting, Crooks searched for images and public appearances of Trump, President Joe Biden, Attorney General Merrick Garland, FBI Director Christopher A. Wray, and Catherine, Princess of Wales,[22][23][24] as well as for information regarding the Republican National Convention[25] and the Democratic National Convention.[26] He also searched the Internet for information on major depressive disorder and the Oxford High School shooting, with authorities finding an arrest photograph of Oxford shooter Ethan Crumbley on his phone.[26][27][28]

On July 6, the same day he registered for the rally, Crooks searched "how far was Oswald from Kennedy" in reference to former president John F. Kennedy and the gunman who assassinated him.[29] Crooks also searched for information on power plants and the attempted assassination of Slovakian prime minister Robert Fico. He used a number of aliases and encrypted communication accounts to buy firearm supplies and bomb-making material.[30] On July 12, 2024, Crooks went to a shooting range where he was a member to practice firing.[31]

He purchased over 50 rounds of ammunition and a ladder before going to the rally on July 13.[32] He requested the day off from work because he had "something to do", telling his co-workers that he would return the next day.[33] Hours before the shooting, Crooks's parents had called the police to report him as missing and expressed concern about his wellbeing.[34] On July 13, Crooks went to the Trump rally.[35] He climbed onto a building that was being used by police as a staging area.[36] Text messages from a police sniper indicate that the police were aware of him already 90 minutes before the shooting.[37][38] Using an AR-15–style rifle which his father had bought legally in 2013 and that was legally transferred to him in 2023,[30][39] Thomas shot Trump and injured his upper right ear[40] and also shot three adult male audience members;[41] one of them, 50-year-old Corey Comperatore, was killed.[42] Crooks was then killed by a member of the Secret Service Counter Sniper Team.[43][44] Bomb-making materials were found inside his vehicle and at his home, and a remote detonator was found on his body.[45] The FBI identified him as the shooter on July 14.[35]

Evidence on his political views remains inconclusive. In January 2021, he donated $15 to a voter turnout group with a Democratic platform. When he reached the voting age of 18 in September 2021, he registered to vote in Pennsylvania as a member of the Republican Party and remained registered as a Republican until his death.



Likely just a suicidal loser that wanted to be famous with martyrdom, look at the bolded section.

Sometimes the answer isn't complicated. Depressed loser wants to die and wants to be remembered.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:32 am to
If he ditched the fake id, gun, and manifesto would they have even had enough to arrest him?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20346 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:33 am to
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Has to be incredibly stressful, I'm sure he'd barely slept since last week. Even if you had everything planned out at some point fatigue sets in and you stop thinking clearly.



I will say that a McDonalds hashbrown does hit the spot when you're operating on a lack of sleep
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59236 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:36 am to
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Now that's a subtle one

Thanks


I’m not a professional meme maker or anything
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
3639 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:38 am to
Anyone think this guy thought he could outsmart the system? I think he wanted the thrill and didn’t expect to be caught. If he did get caught he planned to off himself
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12637 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:52 am to
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This is meaningless without knowing more details. If he has a billion in stock and routinely sells $15m a quarter would the above matter at all? Just because a lawsuit alledges reasons for something doesn’t mean it has any legitimacy. I could sue you for having sex with a monkey but it doesn’t make any of it true.

Lol. Being richer doesn’t make it more legal to obfuscate critical information from the street as you sell off assets at artificially high prices, stealing from pensioners in the process to avoid losses of your own.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20346 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:54 am to
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Lol. Being richer doesn’t make it more legal to obfuscate critical information from the street as you sell off assets at artificially high prices, stealing from pensioners in the process to avoid losses of your own.



Just because he was accused of this doesn't mean he is guilty of this. And these guys have a finite window to sell and whether or not they plan to sell and how much is usually decided upon well in advance by their wealth management team.

I'm not saying he's innocent, but just because he has been accused of something doesn't mean he is guilty of it.

Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12637 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:59 am to
They’re guilty. Believe that. This pension fund isn’t dropping millions to litigate a baseless claim. They failed to disclose critical info to the street and they sold the shares—lots of shares, ~$120Mm between the 3 of them
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 12:01 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39725 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:03 pm to
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If he ditched the fake id, gun, and manifesto would they have even had enough to arrest him?


I was thinking about this, and there’s no way, right?

Maybe if they have DNA match and they strongly suspected him, they could fish his McDonald’s cup out the trash and test it

But without that gun and the other evidence, it feels like a shot in the dark at best
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75223 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:05 pm to
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If he ditched the fake id, gun, and manifesto would they have even had enough to arrest him?

Probably not. Have they even charged him with the murder yet? They hadn't last night, just charges for weapons possession and the fake ID.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20346 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:06 pm to
Brian Thompson sold $12m in shares, I haven't seen $120m anywhere.

And he sold them at $512 a share. UNH is currently trading at $560 a share.

Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12637 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:10 pm to
There are 3 execs that combined unloaded over a hundred million.

Today’s price is irrelevant. The argument here is about the price paid for the sale of all those shares unloaded while negative information was hidden. It would have driven the price down, and the cost basis for buyers should have been lower. If they sold $120MM in shares and it became worth $100MM right when they released the antitrust news, they’ve stolen that delta from the buyers of those assets.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24218 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Brian Thompson sold $12m in shares, I haven't seen $120m anywhere.

And he sold them at $512 a share. UNH is currently trading at $560 a share.


Exactly. I keep saying this. I don't see how they are guilty of anything. Its not like an Enron deal where the stock tanked. The stock is way up since they did anything.

I'm sure what they did was intentional and illegal, but I don't see given the current state of the company stock they are found guilty.

ETA: Lol, DV away. If their intention was to sell before the stock tanked, the stock never tanked. So there's no proof that they were selling to prevent their own personal losses.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 12:53 pm
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