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re: LSU professor says she will start dropping (racist) students - says she’s keeping a list

Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33792 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:22 pm to
Someone needs to do one of those Twitter montages "When virtual signaling meets real life": A Twitter story in four acts.

1. Screenshot of her original post.
2. Screenshot of someone telling her this is illegal.
3. Someone arguing that the Constitution doesn't protect hate speech.
4. Screenshot of her Twitter account being deleted.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51671 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:24 pm to
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The problem is that some “person of color” (so, a colored person?) can have a thesis that all wypipo should be killed or enslaved and it will be lauded.

Agreed. But you can’t fix this with rules. It can only be fixed through the application of reason. Without a reasonable, wholesome citizenry, democracy will not work.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51671 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:25 pm to
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What is the measuring stick there, though? Does that include minorities who are hateful of their current lot in life? Hateful towards what, specifically, would justify denying admission? One's parents? God?

Do you think that a student who espouses death to all Jews should be allowed into a university?
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1972 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:26 pm to
If so many of you at LSU are against this, why don't a large number of you contact her boss and try to have her fired? Seems like the right thing to do.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133424 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:29 pm to
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Do you think that a student who espouses death to all Jews should be allowed into a university?
That depends.

Does that student have a 98 mph fastball to go with a 90 mph slider??
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71152 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:30 pm to
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If so many of you at LSU are against this, why don't a large number of you contact her boss and try to have her fired? Seems like the right thing to do.

There's really no honor in that. Personally making her arse quit would be more fitting.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:31 pm to
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Do you think that a student who espouses death to all Jews should be allowed into a university?




Yes. For the same reason my degree program required me to read Mein Kampf.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33792 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:32 pm to
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Do you think that a student who espouses death to all Jews should be allowed into a university?


The whole point is that it doesn't matter what we think. Your opinions and emotions should not have a role.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87176 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:32 pm to
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why don't a large number of you contact her boss and try to have her fired?
No. It's not the right thing to do imo. I don't know this woman. I don't know how good of a teacher she is. I know she made a terrible suggestion in a time where she probably thought she was in the right and going to look really good doing it. She was praised by many people actually so she was half right. It was a mistake and I don't think it's worth her job. If she went through with it, yes. But no reason to fire her now unless you support cancel culture.

I get that it's "nice" to see the left's standards and methods backfire on their own, but it's not something I want normalized.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133424 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:32 pm to
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If so many of you at LSU are against this, why don't a large number of you contact her boss and try to have her fired?
No, thanks. That would make us a bad as her.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:37 pm to
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Do you think that a student who espouses death to all Jews should be allowed into a university?


If you have one devout Muslim enrolled, they are already there.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:49 pm to
You should ask for forgiveness.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 6:46 am
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29192 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 5:50 pm to
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No, thanks. That would make us a bad as her.


If those are the rules the left wants to play by.......why not?

It’s time to quit being nice and getting walked all over.

She’s already told you what she’s going to do, you can bet after this escapade she’ll only be further emboldened to extract her pound of flesh if not fired.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 5:54 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87176 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:07 pm to
I don't want a society that tolerates and expects people to lose jobs (this teacher) or the chance at an education (this future student) for every mistake they make. Her intention was to keep racists out of her class. Generally and on its face, a cause most would support. However, the execution was completely off. She could have said something along the lines of vowing to respond to any hate-fill remarks in her class by removing that person per the student guidelines which is well within her right. And if someone said something like this in a classroom, I would expect them to be removed. Speech in a classroom is not completely protected by the first amendment.

quote:

Modern Supreme Court decisions have made it clear that the right to free speech and expression can sometimes be subordinated to achieve legitimate educational goals. (See discussions of Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier and Bethel School District v. Fraser.) A school is not comparable to a public park where anyone can stand on a soapbox or a bulletin board on which anyone can post a notice. While students and teachers do not “shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate” (Tinker v. Des Moines), speech is not quite as free inside educational institutions as outside.

This does not mean that students and teachers have no First Amendment rights at school. Quite the contrary. But within the educational setting, the right to free speech is implemented in ways that do not interfere with schools’ educational mission.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1972 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:11 pm to
And that is why this will continue to happen to conservatives.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87176 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:15 pm to
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And that is why this will continue to happen to conservatives.
It happens far more to liberals. Look at Kevin Hart and others who have been attacked and forced to either quit or capitulate. Hell, there's a thread about Loyola's former dean of journalism getting canceled at another school. She certainly wasn't conservative.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29192 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:15 pm to
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Her intention was to keep racists out of her class.


However noble, that isn’t her job.
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:16 pm to
She should be terminated immediately.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:17 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87176 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 6:19 pm to
It's not from a position of prevention. But if he were to make that same remark while in her classroom, she would have every right and would likely even be expected to remove him as it would interfere with his interaction and the education of others. I think the disciplinary board would agree. Again, the classroom setting has limitations on free speech. It's not a park or a common area.
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