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re: LSU Law Students attempt to Ban Steve Scalise as Graduation Speaker
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:35 am to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:35 am to MontyFranklyn
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I know some here are being critical of these students stance, but how many here openly seek to engage with liberals or even moderates on issues that we all face?
I have a good friend who is liberal, and I engage with him relatively often to try to understand his viewpoint on issues. I'm not a staunch conservative, but rather a moderate, and I cannot carry-on a productive conversation with him due to the fact that all of his arguments are based upon anecdotal evidence and how he "feels" as opposed to hard-line stats or objective measures.
He's a good friend of mine and it does not affect our relationship, but it's maddening at times.
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:35 am to BBONDS25
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Oh ffs. These kids are just being idiots.
i had a bit of fame by writing a letter to the editor in undergrad about idiots whining about our speaker. it's just so stupid
i don't care if it's liberals or conservatives whining. it's a literal ceremonial event. it's useless
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:36 am to BBONDS25
i'll just say this
academia is perfect for Devlin
academia is perfect for Devlin
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:44 am to BBONDS25
quote:Well later in my post I pointed that they were missing an opportunity to get a better understanding of him and his positions and views.
Oh ffs. These kids are just being idiots. I'm glad this crap wasn't happening 10 years ago when I was there. These fragile idiots won't do well in the real world.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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ole Devlin
he tried a power play in class once to embarrass me and it didn't work out well for him
Yep, I've schooled him on more than a few occasions. We do actually agree on a few things, though, especially about access to the courts.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:45 am to DeadFish
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DeadFish
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I think with that you have made my point as to why the speaker shouldn't be a political figure. Too much hostility towards politicians and too much irrationality in regard to politicians. Going all the way back to the Louisiana Governor and later Senator who, because of his political ideology, was shot by an angry Conservative. Only, unlike Scalise, this politician's wound were mortal. He dieded. Then they named a bridge after him.
So you actually believe the original Magic Bullet Theory? You don't subscribe to the nurses who mentioned that Kingfish mentioned to them that his fat lip was from, "...where he hit me," while he was in the Hospital?
That the 60 bullets State Police rang out with weren't what really hit him?
GMAFB.
This is an attack on free speech and free-thinking. These kids have the right to try it, but we have the right to point it out for what it is.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:46 am to MontyFranklyn
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I know some here are being critical of these students stance, but how many here openly seek to engage with liberals or even moderates on issues that we all face?
All of the time, actually.
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Conversations with the potential to bring understanding have now become nothing more than exchanges of repulsive insults, slander and degrading remarks. The true middle ground has to take back control
So much this. Social media and 24 hour news have absolutely poisoned the well for debate in this country.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:48 am to Epic Cajun
quote:Being in the south and a moderate, I engage conservatives on a day to day basis. I have a great understanding of their position. Overall, most are just moderates that lean right on specific issues. Hell, most of the people here are moderates. I don't typically talk about politics though, general conversations can display a person's values.
I have a good friend who is liberal, and I engage with him relatively often to try to understand his viewpoint on issues. I'm not a staunch conservative, but rather a moderate, and I cannot carry-on a productive conversation with him due to the fact that all of his arguments are based upon anecdotal evidence and how he "feels" as opposed to hard-line stats or objective measures.
He's a good friend of mine and it does not affect our relationship, but it's maddening at times.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:50 am to DeadFish
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DeadFish
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"I asked you already.
Name another LSU grad that would be a good commencement speaker that is an LSU grad, known and respected by a majority of the student body? As someone mentioned, Shaq, who has spoken before, but maybe he said no."
Todd Graves.
but fyi, as to Graves and Shaq, the LSU Law School traditionally picks someone who is themselves a graduate of LSU Law.
Todd Graves went to Georgia
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:51 am to kingbob
quote:I guess what I really meant by engage is participating in a discussion which purpose is to garner better understanding of the opposite position.
All of the time, actually.
quote:It has become nothing but a wall to hide behind a sling poo
So much this. Social media and 24 hour news have absolutely poisoned the well for debate in this country.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:52 am to MontyFranklyn
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I guess what I really meant by engage is participating in a discussion which purpose is to garner better understanding of the opposite position.
Once again, all of the time.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:52 am to MontyFranklyn
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Being in the south and a moderate, I engage conservatives on a day to day basis. I have a great understanding of their position. Overall, most are just moderates that lean right on specific issues. Hell, most of the people here are moderates. I don't typically talk about politics though, general conversations can display a person's values.
As a moderate, I look to the left and right and see idiots on both sides
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:52 am to Mufassa
Bitchbaby Tyson has to be behind this.
Mr. Conditional Humanity himself(that was the buzz word he used when arguing against judging Alton Sterling based on his past).
frick this poon.
Mr. Conditional Humanity himself(that was the buzz word he used when arguing against judging Alton Sterling based on his past).
frick this poon.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:54 am to Mufassa
I counted 6 actual students on there, although some other actual ones in the anonymous votes probably.
I do not support the petition, but I also recognize that they have a right to make one. Part of free speech.
I do not support the petition, but I also recognize that they have a right to make one. Part of free speech.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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i'll just say this academia is perfect for Devlin
Without a doubt!
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:56 am to DeadFish
quote:
think with that you have made my point as to why the speaker shouldn't be a political figure. Too much hostility towards politicians and too much irrationality in regard to politicians.
From the modern left....yes. It isn't a reason to ban a speaker. Let them throw their tantrum. Let the adults ignore it.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:58 am to mikelbr
LINK
dude has been reading my posts
nevermind
quote:
Many in our community see the state of our most impoverished and embattled neighborhoods and see merely sites of mass pathology.
dude has been reading my posts
quote:
If black communities are simply collections of people who pathologically make poor choices and are genetically and culturally predisposed to criminality and dependency
nevermind
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:01 am to kingbob
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Yep, I've schooled him on more than a few occasions.
he did not try to get me on a logical/policy point (no professor could b/c i never spoke unless called on
) before class he asked me and my friends what we thought of the reading. we told him that we didn't read (b/c he said he didn't give negative participation grades). class starts and he immediately goes, "so Mr. SFP, what did you think about [some stupid case]?"
i guess he thought he could shame me or something
instead, i was just like "i told you before class i didn't do the reading. why'd you call on me?" and the class started laughing
he was PISSED
i didn't read after about halfway through the first semester and after the first semester i didn't give a shite about my grades. with little effort i was top 25% then went around the firm recruitment circuit and got disgusted at that shite and realized that was the only reason to get good grades. since i didn't want to be part of them, and since i was basically fail-proof, i gave negative fricks
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:02 am to kingbob
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Basically, before Scalise was a Congressman, he spoke at an event 16 years ago hosted by a group headed by David Duke. Supposedly, Scalise had no idea of the connection and simply showed up because he was invited.
This isn't accurate at all. He was invited to speak to a neighborhood group whose president happened to be Kenny Knight who was a David Duke advisor. Immediately after the neighborhood meeting, Knight was holding a conference at the then Sheraton (now Copeland Tower) hotel for the European-American Unity and Rights Organization.
Scalise left immediately after speaking to the neighborhood group which had no connection to the EURO Conference other than Kenny Knight heading both up.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
That link is textbook
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